Detroit Pistons 2025 Offseason

[Deleterious]

 

[buddha]

that's what you would hope to see from last year's lottery pick.

[papalawrence]

I watched the Tigers instead, but will check out the Pistons on Sunday. Really nice to see how well Holland played. He could have a much bigger role next season 

[Betrayer]

Nice game from Ron. He looked like a man among boys even though he just turned 20.

So disruptive on defense and he was good on the glass too. Still a little out of control at times, but he can get to the paint at will. And more importantly the three ball looked really good. One game is a tiny sample size, but they talked about how that's been a focus for him this offseason and how he's working with Vinson a lot.

Holland with a good three point shot would be a game changer for this team. It would mean you can play Ausar and Ron together and just watch opponents cry.

Klintman has some really nice passing skills and his handle is pretty solid for a big man as well. I still need to see it come together against real NBA talent to believe it fully, but there might be a rotation player in there with some more development.

[1984Echoes]

19 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

 

If Holland turns himself INTO Herb Jones 2.0 then that is a HUGE plus for the Pistons...

[Deleterious]

I don't know anything about this Lanier kid.  His release looks a bit low, which could be problematic. But the release is lightning fast, he gets that shot up in a hurry.  

 

[Deleterious]

Announcer: Coach Udoka, thanks for joining us.   What is your favorite thing about coming to Vegas?

Udoka: Pussy

[papalawrence]

More and more I believe that Holland can play a significant role on a championship team. So much upside. And Chaz seems like a smooth and steady guy. If he can play adequate D, he could be a good fit. He is a couple inches shorter, but with the very small sample size, his game looks a bit like Allan Houston to me.

[Betrayer]

Is it time to start talking about Daniss Jenkins?

[Deleterious]

24 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

Is it time to start talking about Daniss Jenkins?

Not going to go crazy over SL.  But he did average over 7 assists per game for the Cruise last year.  Being a two-way guy means he can play 50 games for us.  I would be more willing to give him a go rather than continuing the Sasser experiment.  

[Betrayer]

31 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Not going to go crazy over SL.  But he did average over 7 assists per game for the Cruise last year.  Being a two-way guy means he can play 50 games for us.  I would be more willing to give him a go rather than continuing the Sasser experiment.  

That's where I'm at as well. I was thinking about the Sasser spot for him. He's bigger, more of a true PG, plays some solid defense, and seems to have really improved his outside shot.

[buddha]

dont make me tap the sign:

sign: summer league stats mean nothing.

[Betrayer]

6 hours ago, buddha said:

dont make me tap the sign:

sign: summer league stats mean nothing.

That's why I watch the games. I'm talking about the eye test. The stats are just there to back that up.

[Shinzaki]

I vaguely recall being impressed by Jenkins in summer league last year.

 

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Betrayer said:

That's why I watch the games. I'm talking about the eye test. The stats are just there to back that up.

holland looks like he should look for this year.  he looks too good for summer league.  that's what you want to see.

[HugoD]

36 minutes ago, buddha said:

holland looks like he should look for this year.  he looks too good for summer league.  that's what you want to see.

Agreed. I had the same thought when watching - that we was definitely at a higher level than most on the floor.  For that reason, I discounted the counting stats with the understanding that if he's progressing, he "should" get that kind of output.

[slothfacekilla]

8 hours ago, buddha said:

dont make me tap the sign:

sign: summer league stats mean nothing.

I heard Austin Daye is looking pretty good though!

[Deleterious]

Seriously.   Who do I call to get these uniforms in the rotation?

[casimir]

55 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Seriously.   Who do I call to get these uniforms in the rotation?

These are okay,  They just need to dump the black ones and the cream colored ones and whatever ones they’re going to introduce this season.  Bring back the reds that they had a few seasons ago.

[Deleterious]

Kinda odd a 2nd year guy is playing 3 games in SL.  Almost feels like they are showcasing Holland a bit.  

[buddha]

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Kinda odd a 2nd year guy is playing 3 games in SL.  Almost feels like they are showcasing Holland a bit.  

with these summer league numbers, we'll probably be able to deal him for giannis...

[Betrayer]

17 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Kinda odd a 2nd year guy is playing 3 games in SL.  Almost feels like they are showcasing Holland a bit.  

It's an indictment of Summer League that this has become the perception when a guy plays more than a game or two. The whole point is for these young players to play.

[Betrayer]

If you take one thing away from Summer League it should be that Bobi Klintman isn't your backup PF in 2025. Maybe he develops down the line, but you can't go into the season thinking he's going to be the guy.

While the passing is fun, the turnover rate is way too high to go along with it. Plus, it won't be his role in the NBA anyway. He needed to show that he could knockdown the open three, attack a closeout, finish at the rim, and defend. I saw none of that.

[Deleterious]

16 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

It's an indictment of Summer League that this has become the perception when a guy plays more than a game or two. The whole point is for these young players to play.

SL has never been about the games.  The games are just an excuse to get the young guys into a training camp environment for a week or two so the coaches can put eyes on the new players.  These games are trash with a bunch of guys who won't even play in the G-League.  You don't benefit from that.  

Most NBA players will be back in LA next week at UCLA.  Then the Rico Hines runs will start.  Getting your ass kicked there will benefit you much more than any SL game will.  

[Betrayer]

5 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

SL has never been about the games.  The games are just an excuse to get the young guys into a training camp environment for a week or two so the coaches can put eyes on the new players.  These games are trash with a bunch of guys who won't even play in the G-League.  You don't benefit from that.  

Most NBA players will be back in LA next week at UCLA.  Then the Rico Hines runs will start.  Getting your ass kicked there will benefit you much more than any SL game will.  

Then there's clearly a disconnect between the NBA League Office/Marketing Department and the coaches.