Red Wings Offseason 2025

[buddha]

robertson DOES fit the wings' timeline, btw.

[gehringer_2]

5 minutes ago, buddha said:

robertson DOES fit the wings' timeline, btw.

yeah - if Robertson isn't exactly the player they are willing to go hard after we need a new FO.

[Shinzaki]

Dallas eases their cap crunch slightly by offloading Marchment and his $4.5 million contract to the Kraken for a 3rd in 2025 and a 4th in 2026.

I  hope to God SY has something cooking because that's a guy we should have been in on

[lordstanley]

Do we think Yzerman enjoys his job? Or if not, does at least he have a burning desire to win again? Because if the Wings miss the playoffs this season I still don’t think he would be fired BUT a mutual decision to part ways wouldn’t be out of the question.  

[buddha]

5 hours ago, lordstanley said:

Do we think Yzerman enjoys his job? Or if not, does at least he have a burning desire to win again? Because if the Wings miss the playoffs this season I still don’t think he would be fired BUT a mutual decision to part ways wouldn’t be out of the question.  

he seems to enjoy the press conferences less and less.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

12 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

yeah - if Robertson isn't exactly the player they are willing to go hard after we need a new FO.

I want none of that Ken Holland "We like our team" BS out of Yzerman. To your point, if Robertson isn't a guy you go all in for than who? I was a big proponent of the late Johnny G coming to Detroit but I get that he didn't fit their timeline, so I understood why we did bother trying to acquire him. But guys like Robertson, Pettersson, Bennett, they are all three of talented, young enough, and fit the timeline of where we are at developmentally as an organization. I don't want him to blow all our cap space or financial flexibility on only one player, but I want him to be aggressive in trying to acquire a top, under 30 talent for this team.

[slothfacekilla]

11 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Dallas eases their cap crunch slightly by offloading Marchment and his $4.5 million contract to the Kraken for a 3rd in 2025 and a 4th in 2026.

I  hope to God SY has something cooking because that's a guy we should have been in on

Well he had a 10 team no trade clause (which I didn't realize) and it is probably fairly likely that the Wings were on it.  Plus:

 

Unfortunately there are a lot more nuances to trades than just outbidding other teams.

 

I'm honestly not sure why people assume Yzerman is just sitting on his hands.  There were heavy rumors that we were really in on Stamkos last offseason (thank god that didn't happen with what money he got) and they had a deal worked out for Trouba that Trouba nixed.  I have faith that he is going to try to improve the team through trades and FA but it doesn't always work out.

[slothfacekilla]

https://open.substack.com/pub/prashanthiyer/p/if-i-were-steve-yzerman-2025-part-3d4?r=nkg8z&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

I am skeptical that a lot of this (or all of this) is likely to happen but this would be a fine offseason

edit: more I think about it I don't think either of those trades get accepted by the other teams

Edited June 20 by slothfacekilla

[slothfacekilla]

Rejoice, Friedman says Holl is a name to watch for a buyout (which starts today)

[buddha]

4 hours ago, slothfacekilla said:

https://open.substack.com/pub/prashanthiyer/p/if-i-were-steve-yzerman-2025-part-3d4?r=nkg8z&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

I am skeptical that a lot of this (or all of this) is likely to happen but this would be a fine offseason

edit: more I think about it I don't think either of those trades get accepted by the other teams

i think calgary would deal andersson buy i'm not sure they'd do a pick swap.  you probably just need to give them a first.  they can get that at the deadline if they just hold on to him, why wouldnt they just wait?  to get ras?  i doubt it.

ehlers at 7×9 is very scary.  how about we buy out tarasenko, get $3.2ish in cap space this year and use it for marner at 7x13?  lol.  pipe dream, i know.  ehlers is more realistic.

robertson is a pipe dream too, imo.  i doubt dallas moves him.  i REALLY doubt they move him to us.

the depth moves make sense.

prashanth hasnt been too critical of yzerman until last offseason (and drafting cossa) with the walman deal.  he still looks at us as contending in seider/raymond prime and that detroit's future is still set up nicely.

but as everyone is noticing these days, the biggest problem in detroit (of many) is their bottom six are useless.  the lot of em.  the draft picks have hit, but the free agents are terrible.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

7 hours ago, slothfacekilla said:

https://open.substack.com/pub/prashanthiyer/p/if-i-were-steve-yzerman-2025-part-3d4?r=nkg8z&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

I am skeptical that a lot of this (or all of this) is likely to happen but this would be a fine offseason

edit: more I think about it I don't think either of those trades get accepted by the other teams

I like the aggressiveness of his offseason plan. He's doing the things I want to do which are dump a bad contract or two, add another defenseman in the top 4 pairing, and get a first line forward to add scoring punch to the lineup and PP. I would swap Robertson or Pettersson for Ehlers as I think both have more upside and are younger than Ehlers. As well, it seems their contracts would only be $2 million more per year than what he is proposing we give Ehlers if we acquired him.

[buddha]

Friedman says dallas is about to start negotiations with robertson on an extension.

i think the idea he was ever available is a pipe dream made up to get clicks.  you never know, but i really doubt it.

[1984Echoes]

4 hours ago, buddha said:

Dallas is about to start negotiations with Robertson on an extension... I think the idea he was ever available is a pipe dream...

Heavy sigh.

Much sadness...

 

 

 

Edited June 21 by 1984Echoes

[Cruzer1]

The more I find out about Eklund, the more I like his game. He's a high energy player,  exactly what they need. 

[slothfacekilla]

https://x.com/NHLRumourReport/status/1936420087130689852?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1936420087130689852|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=

 

 

 

[slothfacekilla]

https://rg.org/news/hockey/bruins-among-multiple-teams-set-to-pursue-brock-boeser

Wings along with a bunch of other teams apparently in on Boeser

 

Unsure how reliable this is but: https://detroithockeynow.com/2025/06/22/are-red-wings-making-pitch-for-islanders-dobson/

Edited June 23 by slothfacekilla

[slothfacekilla]

[buddha]

54 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

for a 4th liner, a second and a 4th, i heard

zegras' value is not so high...

[slothfacekilla]

14 minutes ago, buddha said:

for a 4th liner, a second and a 4th, i heard

zegras' value is not so high...

Ya I was quite shocked at the return, I guess the Ducks really wanted his cap space for free agency. 

He only has one year left on his contract so I guess most teams didn't want to give a raise to a one dimensional dude who's one dimension hasn't been great for a while.  I don't think Tocchet is going to be good for him at all.

[buddha]

29 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

Ya I was quite shocked at the return, I guess the Ducks really wanted his cap space for free agency. 

He only has one year left on his contract so I guess most teams didn't want to give a raise to a one dimensional dude who's one dimension hasn't been great for a while.  I don't think Tocchet is going to be good for him at all.

low risk gamble for philly.  they gave up next to nothing.  philly has a ton of picks and can afford it.  then they get to decide if they want to keep him.  if he's good, they'll have to pay but will be happy because he played well this year.  if not, sayonara.

he's got offensive talent, but is that going to play with tocchet?  i have my doubts too.

[buddha]

2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said:

https://rg.org/news/hockey/bruins-among-multiple-teams-set-to-pursue-brock-boeser

Wings along with a bunch of other teams apparently in on Boeser

 

Unsure how reliable this is but: https://detroithockeynow.com/2025/06/22/are-red-wings-making-pitch-for-islanders-dobson/

guys like dobson dont usually get moved.  the wings have been "in" on a lot of defensemen in the last few months (trouba), so maybe there is some fire there?  

[lordstanley]

I was reading Ansar Khan in MLive today: ““The players teams would want are the ones Yzerman isn’t going to move: Dylan Larkin (has a full no-movement clause), Lucas Raymond, Alex DeBrincat, Moritz Seider, Simon Edvinsson, Marco Kasper, Axel Sandin Pellikka.”  

I actually don’t think any of them should be off the table, for the right deal.  A non-playoff team should not have 7 untouchables.

[buddha]

5 hours ago, lordstanley said:

I was reading Ansar Khan in MLive today: ““The players teams would want are the ones Yzerman isn’t going to move: Dylan Larkin (has a full no-movement clause), Lucas Raymond, Alex DeBrincat, Moritz Seider, Simon Edvinsson, Marco Kasper, Axel Sandin Pellikka.”  

I actually don’t think any of them should be off the table, for the right deal.  A non-playoff team should not have 7 untouchables.

especially asp.  i like him as much as anyone, but he's a small, offense first power play specialist who hasnt proven he can handle ahl games much less nhl games.

[1984Echoes]

I don't think ASP should be the "excludable" untouchable.

I get it that he hasn't proven anything and is on the small side...

But I think the "excludable" should ONLY be Larkin... and that's based simply on timeline.

Also: He would command the largest return in any trade (well, actually, Seider and Raymond would probably top him...).

So I'm going with Larkin.

Also, I would include Cossa and Augustine in the untouchables. Not because they are "great" or proven or anything... They might even both flop out. But I want to see them in the NHL crease for the Wings BEFORE I decide whether to keep one, both, or neither. I hate giving up on a player before even knowing what we have. If one proves out to be a 1A, or even a 1B, then they are a keeper. If both are at least 1B's, we have a future tandem. If they both flop out, well... try, try, try again... Until we (Yzerman) figure it out.

IMO.

 

 

Edited June 24 by 1984Echoes

[gehringer_2]

15 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Also, I would include Cossa and Augustine in the untouchables. Not because they are "great" or proven or anything... They might even both flop out. But I want to see them in the NHL crease for the Wings BEFORE I decide whether to keep one, both, or neither

Of course there can be an art to this. If you have a guy who you don't believe is going to make it but other people still be he might - you need to deal that guy before you ever let him get to the league and prove he has no value.....