NBA Info - June 2025

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

The Ishbia family is taking over sports.

He is building a 68,000 square foot home on Lake Michigan.  Cost to acquire the land (he had to buy 4 different homes) and build the new house will be roughly $80 million.

The Suns owner is doing something similar in West Bloomfield.  

 

[buddha]

48 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

The Ishbia family is taking over sports.

He is building a 68,000 square foot home on Lake Michigan.  Cost to acquire the land (he had to buy 4 different homes) and build the new house will be roughly $80 million.

The Suns owner is doing something similar in West Bloomfield.  

 

so reinsdorf will have to sell the team in 2034?  he'll be 97 years old.

this agreement is getting sox fans excited but all it really means is that jerry is controlling the team until he dies.

[Deleterious]

No big names reporting it yet.  But there are rumors the Knicks will make a massive trade offer for Giannis as well.

 

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[Deleterious]

A Suns blogger said LAC, Houston, NYK, San Antonio, and Minnesota are all KD Landing spots.  He also said Phoenix is interested in KAT.  Imagine the defense Beal, KAT, and Booker could provide.

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

Windhorst was on one of the talk shows discussing Phoenix.  He sad the Suns want a KD trade done before the draft and Ishbia will be spearheading the transaction.

 

[Deleterious]

Thought maybe he was playing Kareem's role in a Game of Death reboot.

 

[Deleterious]

Jokic

 

[ben9753]

6 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

Jokic

 

Not debatable really. Jokic is far and away the best 2nd round pick ever

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[buddha]

26 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

lol knicks

[buddha]

36 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

 

bulls deny knicks request to interview billy donovan.

nice job, leon.  what a well thought out plan by the knicks.

[Deleterious]

Jesus are they just asking every team in the league? 

Monty Williams has some free time.

[Motown Bombers]

I'm not up on the NBA as I used to be, but this seems like a lot to give up?

 

[buddha]

desmond bane can be really good.  if orlando becomes a playoff contender those draft picks are just outside shots at role players.  it goes to show how much nba teams actually value mid to late firsts nowadays.

is banchero/wagner/bane better than cade/ivey/???

probably.

so what does derrick white go for?  if the pistons want to add anyone of significance, it will cost either ivey or duren plus four or five first round picks.

[Deleterious]

Is one of them really the Sun's 2026 pick? Unprotected? I wouldn't trade that for Bane. 

 

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, buddha said:

it goes to show how much nba teams actually value mid to late firsts nowadays.

It just seems bizarre to me that 300+ Div1 college basketball program don't produce 30 NBA quality players in a year.

Edited yesterday at 04:14 PM by gehringer_2

[Betrayer]

4 firsts and two rotation players seems like a high price for Bane and really screws the trade market for the summer because everyone is going to be pointing to that trade now. Imagine what this does to the asking price for guys like Giannis and KD. The future Orlando picks will likely be in the early 20's, but this year's #13 and the Suns pick in 2026 (probably lottery) are good assets.

Question now is, what is Memphis doing? Are they just getting under the cap and are happy to be a play-in team? Because they certainly aren't set up to contend. Or, is this just the beginning and they're going to blow it up? If it's the latter, the Pistons should be on the phones trying to get JJJ. I'm not giving up Cade or Ausar, but anything else is on the menu.

[KL2]

42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It just seems bizarre to me that 300+ Div1 college basketball program don't produce 30 NBA quality players in a year.

It's the nba's biggest problem. Pick six lands you a back end rotation guy.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, KL2 said:

It's the nba's biggest problem. Pick six lands you a back end rotation guy.

So if it's only that nobody actually learns how to play the game before they get there because of one-and-done, then you'd still expect to see good players emerge from later in the draft but a few year's experience. Or is it just impossible to improve enough as player once in the league? 

[Deleterious]

The two finals teams only have 4 top 10 picks on their roster/rotations. Neither teams star is a top 10 pick. So you find plenty of talent in later rounds.

Plus, I've never seen any evidence less NBA picks make than other sports. Small rosters and longer careers skew opinions I think.

[KL2]

21 hours ago, Deleterious said:

The two finals teams only have 4 top 10 picks on their roster/rotations. Neither teams star is a top 10 pick. So you find plenty of talent in later rounds.

Plus, I've never seen any evidence less NBA picks make than other sports. Small rosters and longer careers skew opinions I think.

In th nba over the last 20 years about 27 percent of lottery players have made an all star team. Where 55 percent of NFL players taken in top 10 have made a pro bowl. Now obviously its not an apple to apples comparison but gives you an idea of the difference. 

And nobody is saying you cant find talent in the later round, in fact i specifically said in my first post 'of course there are exceptions' so it wasn't just dismissed like you did. But the data is clear in a system designed to spread out talent, a draft, that the NBA does a poor job as a whole of identifying a top tier talent and developing it and its why teams get stuck in that 6-12 range of the draft for years. Where as in somewhere like teh NFL a good draft and the ability to add through FA (something the NBA lacks) can make a turnaround quicker. In my opinion its the biggest problem the NBA has, that teams that are bad remain bad for a lot of years because the league is so bad especially in picks 5-12 of creating stars to make a franchise better and you end up with a bunch of Ivys and Asurs that everybody here would trade for a half-way decent player. 

Edited 3 hours ago by KL2