2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[1984Echoes]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I've never really understood the idea of not making a trade within your division.  If you think it's a good trade, then do it.  If you think it will come back to haunt you, don't do it.  

I'm on board.

Have at it Harris.

Do your best.

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I've never really understood the idea of not making a trade within your division.  If you think it's a good trade, then do it.  If you think it will come back to haunt you, don't do it.  

I think it has to do with fear of failure. It’s fine if the trade you make works well if you and even works well for them at the same time, but if it ever boomerangs back on you—if the guy you trade to Cleveland beats you in a late September game and affects your playoff positioning as a result—everyone is going to focus on that and hammer you ten times as hard for it. 

[Tiger337]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

I think it has to do with fear of failure. It’s fine if the trade you make works well if you and even works well for them at the same time, but if it ever boomerangs back on you—if the guy you trade to Cleveland beats you in a late September game and affects your playoff positioning as a result—everyone is going to focus on that and hammer you ten times as hard for it. 

Fear of failure is not a good quality for a GM!

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Fear of failure is not a good quality for a GM!

I don’t disagree but it’s pretty prevalent in baseball. Besides, baseball men know that failure can get them fired faster than inaction, so why walk into one if they can avoid it?

Edited 21 hours ago by chasfh

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I don’t disagree but it’s pretty prevalent in baseball. Besides, failure can get you fired faster than inaction, so why walk into one if you can avoid it?

I know it's prevalent in baseball, but it still seems dumb to me like not bunting to break up a no hitter.  If you make a terrible trade outside your division, you'll look dumb too.  Now with the more balanced schedule, it makes even less sense.  

Edited 21 hours ago by Tiger337

[Tenacious D]

Devers to SF?  Rare blockbuster trade in June.

[RatkoVarda]

as usual, no one gets out of Boston alive, and the tear down of Devers has begun

the trade return of Betts, Sale and Devers would embarrass even Al Avila

[Tenacious D]

3 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

as usual, no one gets out of Boston alive, and the tear down of Devers has begun

the trade return of Betts, Sale and Devers would embarrass even Al Avila

In fairness to Avila, he was typically moving vets that had some baggage.  The three Red Sox were at the top of their game and still young.

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

as usual, no one gets out of Boston alive, and the tear down of Devers has begun

the trade return of Betts, Sale and Devers would embarrass even Al Avila

One of the key aspects of the return was getting out from under every single remaining dollar of Devers' contract. That's definitely not nothing.

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

One of the key aspects of the return was getting out from under every single remaining dollar of Devers' contract. That's definitely not nothing.

That was an unforced error.  If they didn't want to pay for him, they should not have given him the contract.  Then they compounded the problem by signing another player at the same position.  If they didn't want to spend money, they could have gotten a lot more in return for Devers a couple of years ago.  

[papalawrence]

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

One of the key aspects of the return was getting out from under every single remaining dollar of Devers' contract. That's definitely not nothing.

I agree. This is very different than unloading Betts. Certainly helps SF now, but with Devers body type, that contract carries risk.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

That was an unforced error.  If they didn't want to pay for him, they should not have given him the contract.  Then they compounded the problem by signing another player at the same position.  If they didn't want to spend money, they could have gotten a lot more in return for Devers a couple of years ago.  

Yup. Sucks to be a Red Sox fan knowing they keep shooting themselves in the foot so much. How do those four rings taste now, guys?