2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[1984Echoes]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I've never really understood the idea of not making a trade within your division.  If you think it's a good trade, then do it.  If you think it will come back to haunt you, don't do it.  

I'm on board.

Have at it Harris.

Do your best.

[chasfh]

13 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I've never really understood the idea of not making a trade within your division.  If you think it's a good trade, then do it.  If you think it will come back to haunt you, don't do it.  

I think it has to do with fear of failure. It’s fine if the trade you make works well if you and even works well for them at the same time, but if it ever boomerangs back on you—if the guy you trade to Cleveland beats you in a late September game and affects your playoff positioning as a result—everyone is going to focus on that and hammer you ten times as hard for it. 

[Tiger337]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

I think it has to do with fear of failure. It’s fine if the trade you make works well if you and even works well for them at the same time, but if it ever boomerangs back on you—if the guy you trade to Cleveland beats you in a late September game and affects your playoff positioning as a result—everyone is going to focus on that and hammer you ten times as hard for it. 

Fear of failure is not a good quality for a GM!

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Fear of failure is not a good quality for a GM!

I don’t disagree but it’s pretty prevalent in baseball. Besides, baseball men know that failure can get them fired faster than inaction, so why walk into one if they can avoid it?

Edited yesterday at 01:37 AM by chasfh

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I don’t disagree but it’s pretty prevalent in baseball. Besides, failure can get you fired faster than inaction, so why walk into one if you can avoid it?

I know it's prevalent in baseball, but it still seems dumb to me like not bunting to break up a no hitter.  If you make a terrible trade outside your division, you'll look dumb too.  Now with the more balanced schedule, it makes even less sense.  

Edited yesterday at 01:41 AM by Tiger337

[Tenacious D]

Devers to SF?  Rare blockbuster trade in June.

[RatkoVarda]

as usual, no one gets out of Boston alive, and the tear down of Devers has begun

the trade return of Betts, Sale and Devers would embarrass even Al Avila

[Tenacious D]

3 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

as usual, no one gets out of Boston alive, and the tear down of Devers has begun

the trade return of Betts, Sale and Devers would embarrass even Al Avila

In fairness to Avila, he was typically moving vets that had some baggage.  The three Red Sox were at the top of their game and still young.

[chasfh]

6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

as usual, no one gets out of Boston alive, and the tear down of Devers has begun

the trade return of Betts, Sale and Devers would embarrass even Al Avila

One of the key aspects of the return was getting out from under every single remaining dollar of Devers' contract. That's definitely not nothing.

[Tiger337]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

One of the key aspects of the return was getting out from under every single remaining dollar of Devers' contract. That's definitely not nothing.

That was an unforced error.  If they didn't want to pay for him, they should not have given him the contract.  Then they compounded the problem by signing another player at the same position.  If they didn't want to spend money, they could have gotten a lot more in return for Devers a couple of years ago.  

[papalawrence]

6 minutes ago, chasfh said:

One of the key aspects of the return was getting out from under every single remaining dollar of Devers' contract. That's definitely not nothing.

I agree. This is very different than unloading Betts. Certainly helps SF now, but with Devers body type, that contract carries risk.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

That was an unforced error.  If they didn't want to pay for him, they should not have given him the contract.  Then they compounded the problem by signing another player at the same position.  If they didn't want to spend money, they could have gotten a lot more in return for Devers a couple of years ago.  

Yup. Sucks to be a Red Sox fan knowing they keep shooting themselves in the foot so much. How do those four rings taste now, guys?

[1984Echoes]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

Yup. Sucks to be a Red Sox fan knowing they keep shooting themselves in the foot so much. How do those four rings taste now, guys?

I believe those four rings have a lifetime shelf life and will taste pretty good until...

Forever.

The current iteration of their team...

However...

[1984Echoes]

I am hoping for an earlier move rather than a "wait till the trade deadline" move. I know they've occurred in prior seasons. But I don't know if that means it's a more expensive prospect cost (because of jumping ahead of the line...) or what the impact is of those earlier type trades.

I would only say that... I don't want to endanger/derail our momentum this season with potential struggles due to pitching issues.

There might be zero potential of that... Hinch may be able to manage through whatever pitching issues we have... Or the struggles are minor, and the team plays right through them, staying on top in the division...

I'd just rather be eager (yes, I am...) to add a couple arms as soon as possible to keep this winning pace going at the same rate... rather than wait till the last second...

Just my 2 cents.

[holygoat]

6 hours ago, chasfh said:

Yup. Sucks to be a Red Sox fan knowing they keep shooting themselves in the foot so much. How do those four rings taste now, guys?

Awesome. Those rings taste awesome. Think of the most delicious thing you've ever tasted, then imagine having something that tastes even better. That's what those four rings taste like.

[Tenacious D]

They still have a good foundation of mostly young players with a lot of upside—Anthony, Mayer, Campbell, Casas, Duran and Crochet.  Starting pitching looks like their weakness—don’t know much about the guys they got from SF.

Will be interesting to see if they sell off Bregman at the deadline (if healthy) or if he opts out after the season.