Trade Ideas - Throw em out there an share your vote - 2025 Deadline

[Toddwert]

14 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

I think this recent hellride changes what Harris does, but also it 100% guarantees that Harris will have to do something.

If they blow a 15.5 game lead, he cannot have every story include:

"and Harris' moves at the trade deadline showed he was either too risk adverse or simply too afraid to trade prospects, and too stubborn to depart from his 8 year rebuilding plan."

agreed there is no guarantee they'll be in this poition again.. you have to push the car over the line

[Tiger337]

54 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

agreed there is no guarantee they'll be in this poition again.. you have to push the car over the line

Right.  Having followed the Tigers for 57 years, I've become accustomed to them rarely being in good position this late in the year.  I like their organization better now than I have since the 80s, but there are still no guarantees.  Even the 80s didn't turn out as good as I imagined at the time.  

[casimir]

1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said:

I think this recent hellride changes what Harris does, but also it 100% guarantees that Harris will have to do something.

If they blow a 15.5 game lead, he cannot have every story include:

"and Harris' moves at the trade deadline showed he was either too risk adverse or simply too afraid to trade prospects, and too stubborn to depart from his 8 year rebuilding plan."

Hopefully he does the right thing.

[RatkoVarda]

3 minutes ago, casimir said:

Hopefully he does the right thing.

his trading ledger is very good; of course, he is dealing from the other column this year

odd how the Cobb fiasco cascaded to the rotation and then the bullpen; if they had signed any rando who could give them 80 innings and a under 5.00 era, they would be in a much better spot

[tiger2022]

I remember when the Lions blew the game against SF in the championship game.  Everyone was saying they'll be back.  I said no guarantees and its tough to get back.  Everyone looked at me like I was nuts, and they got destroyed in their first playoff game.  When you have a chance, you need to take advantage of it. I think Harris and pizza boy are hoping everything just works out without making any moves.  

They could finish in 4th place next year.  Look at the '84 Tigers...one playoff appearance in '87 and by 89, they were the worst franchise for the next 15 years.

Edited Saturday at 03:45 PM by tiger2022

[casimir]

33 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

his trading ledger is very good; of course, he is dealing from the other column this year

odd how the Cobb fiasco cascaded to the rotation and then the bullpen; if they had signed any rando who could give them 80 innings and a under 5.00 era, they would be in a much better spot

Pitching chaos was fun last year.  Certainly not a sustainable strategy.

I think we now know why Flaherty couldn’t find the deal he was looking for.  Kudos to him for pulling it together last season.  But I guess he’s just an inconsistent pitcher as his resume says he is.

Sure would be nice for Mize and Olson to get through the 6th inning on a consistent basis going forward.  That’d be helpful for sure.

[Sports_Freak]

This trade option was in this mornings Free Press. Thoughts?

Tigers acquire: 3B Eugenio Suárez, RHP Merrill Kelly, RHP Shelby Miller.

Diamondbacks acquire: 1B/C Josue Briceño.

[Sports_Freak]

On 7/26/2025 at 11:42 AM, tiger2022 said:

I remember when the Lions blew the game against SF in the championship game.  Everyone was saying they'll be back.  I said no guarantees and its tough to get back.  Everyone looked at me like I was nuts, and they got destroyed in their first playoff game.  When you have a chance, you need to take advantage of it. I think Harris and pizza boy are hoping everything just works out without making any moves.  

They could finish in 4th place next year.  Look at the '84 Tigers...one playoff appearance in '87 and by 89, they were the worst franchise for the next 15 years.

Look at last years Baltimores team. Hanging onto prospects isn't always the best option.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

This trade option was in this mornings Free Press. Thoughts?

Tigers acquire: 3B Eugenio Suárez, RHP Merrill Kelly, RHP Shelby Miller.

Diamondbacks acquire: 1B/C Josue Briceño.

Sounds like something Evan Petzold would dream up.

[Longgone]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Look at last years Baltimores team. Hanging onto prospects isn't always the best option.

Nor is trading prospects for veterans. Both are a gamble.

[AlaskanTigersFan]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

This trade option was in this mornings Free Press. Thoughts?

Tigers acquire: 3B Eugenio Suárez, RHP Merrill Kelly, RHP Shelby Miller.

Diamondbacks acquire: 1B/C Josue Briceño.

If Harris pulls this off, he'd never have to buy a beer, car, meal or spend a dollar in the state of Michigan. Especially without adding Jung or Rainer to that deal....... 

 

Briceno may get us Suarez alone. But not all 3. (And that's reaaaaally stretching it that Briceno has enough value to net Suarez......)

[Tenacious D]

13 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

If Harris pulls this off, he'd never have to buy a beer, car, meal or spend a dollar in the state of Michigan. Especially without adding Jung or Rainer to that deal....... 

 

Briceno may get us Suarez alone. But not all 3. (And that's reaaaaally stretching it that Briceno has enough value to net Suarez......)

I wouldn’t do the trade with just Briceno.  No rentals!

[AlaskanTigersFan]

I think we're getting some rentals....... Sorry to break it to you. Question is now, can we do it without getting rid of Briceno... I still think Liranzo and Jung are the biggest trade pieces.... 

[Tenacious D]

1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

I think we're getting some rentals....... Sorry to break it to you. Question is now, can we do it without getting rid of Briceno... I still think Liranzo and Jung are the biggest trade pieces.... 

those guys better not go for a rental.  I value Liranzo more than Briceno based on being a catcher.

[tiger2022]

I don't understand why everyone thinks teams are liningbup to try to get Jace Jung.  Dude couldn't even make the Tigers roster as the 3rd baseman when he was given all sorts of chances and they all but rolled out the red carpet for him even though he sucked in AAA.  

[AlaskanTigersFan]

Recent 1st round picks still have value. Jung could take off and be a respectable player. I don't think anyone views him as a superstar. But if he hits .280+/.330+/.450+ .... That's quite a bit of value there. Heck he'd be a top 3 player on our team..... Thats what teams realistically expect from him. 

[SeattleMike]

45 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

I don't understand why everyone thinks teams are liningbup to try to get Jace Jung.  Dude couldn't even make the Tigers roster as the 3rd baseman when he was given all sorts of chances and they all but rolled out the red carpet for him even though he sucked in AAA.  

I doubt he would headline a trade but as a second or third piece a 24-year old who's always hit in the minors and can play the infield has some value. Yes, he's never hit in the majors but the sample size isn't great (147 PAs). 

[tiger2022]

3 minutes ago, SeattleMike said:

I doubt he would headline a trade but as a second or third piece a 24-year old who's always hit in the minors and can play the infield has some value. Yes, he's never hit in the majors but the sample size isn't great (147 PAs). 

Always hit in the minors?  Dude is a .254 hitter in the minors with a .245 average in AAA, including .229 in 309 ABs this season.

I don't see how that is "always hit in the minors."

Ryan Kriedler is a .238 hitter in AAA.  

It's time people faced the fact that Jace Jung is not a major league hitter and certainly not a major league glove.  He is basically organizational depth at this point 

 

[Hongbit]

Tigers trade:

Thayran Lirzano

Troy Melton

Cris Rodriguez

Owen Hall

Jace Jung

 

Athletics trade:

Mason Miller

Luis Severino

Harris probably wouldn’t pull the trigger but Oakland is still a mess and would love someone to take the Severino contract they got into this year thinking they’d prosper in Sacramento and have the money.   Their future in Vegas is still up in the air as well.  

[AlaskanTigersFan]

3 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Tigers trade:

Thayran Lirzano

Troy Melton

Cris Rodriguez

Owen Hall

Jace Jung

 

Athletics trade:

Mason Miller

Luis Severino

Harris probably wouldn’t pull the trigger but Oakland is still a mess and would love someone to take the Severino contract they got into this year thinking they’d prosper in Sacramento and have the money.   Their future in Vegas is still up in the air as well.  

I think I'd need more for Oakland. That's pretty steep imo..... (although that's realistically probably what it'd take). I wouldn't do that if I was Harris though. 

[AlaskanTigersFan]

K so I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I proposed

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Tigers get:
Mitch Keller
K'Bryan Hayes
David Bednar
Thomas Harrington

Pirates get:
Rainer
Lirizano
Hamm
Vierling
(Not sure if we'd have to include Ty Madden to balance this out or not)

 

I was told by numerous people (and I tend to agree) that we shouldn't trade Rainer. I was just proposing value wise, this is what it'd take and I think a lot of people thought I was nuts.

This was posted today on mlb.com: https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-trades-that-should-happen-2025

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Tigers shore up both ends of their pitching staff

Tigers get: RHP Mitch Keller and RHP David Bednar
 

Pirates get: SS Bryce Rainer (Tigers' No. 3 prospect, No. 34 overall), OF Cris Rodriguez (Tigers' No. 8 prospect), 2B Max Anderson (Tigers' No. 9 prospect) and LHP Jake Miller (Tigers' No. 14 prospect)

 

Why it makes sense: The first-place Tigers still have a huge lead in the AL Central, but all is not rosy for a team that looked like a juggernaut in the first half. Detroit recently lost 12 of 13 games and is in need of multiple upgrades to improve its chances of making a deep postseason run.

The Tigers traded for Chris Paddack on Monday to take the rotation spot vacated by the injured Reese Olson, but they need to aim higher and have the farm system to do so. Keller could slot in behind Tarik Skubal and Jack Flaherty in the Tigers’ postseason rotation, while Bednar would give the club’s late-inning relief corps some much-needed swing-and-miss potential. This may seem like an aggressive move for the Tigers, but that’s the type of mindset they need to have when Skubal is eligible for free agency after 2026. It’s also a deal that would help for multiple years, with Keller signed through 2028 and Bednar controllable through ’26.

From the Pirates’ perspective, this trade would add some promising young position players -- including MLB Pipeline’s No. 34 overall prospect Rainer -- to a franchise with a talent base that skews toward the pitching side.

-- Thomas Harrigan

Guess I was a little light? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. The article is right though, that it does just make too much sense. I agree with the board. Trading Rainer for a #3 SP and a closer for two years probably isn't worth it..... But I do think that'd be the going rate unfortunately. If we could swap Rainer for Liranzo or Briceno, I'd do that deal. But in three years, McGonigle, Rainer and Clark up the middle.... sheeeeesh. Good core.

[AlaskanTigersFan]

22 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

This trade option was in this mornings Free Press. Thoughts?

Tigers acquire: 3B Eugenio Suárez, RHP Merrill Kelly, RHP Shelby Miller.

Diamondbacks acquire: 1B/C Josue Briceño.

Take Shelby Miller out and https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-trades-that-should-happen-2025 says that Suarez and Merril Kelly would cost two top 100 players and a B level prospect. Oof.  

[KL2]

45 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

K so I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I proposed

I was told by numerous people (and I tend to agree) that we shouldn't trade Rainer. I was just proposing value wise, this is what it'd take and I think a lot of people thought I was nuts.

This was posted today on mlb.com: https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-trades-that-should-happen-2025

Guess I was a little light? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. The article is right though, that it does just make too much sense. I agree with the board. Trading Rainer for a #3 SP and a closer for two years probably isn't worth it..... But I do think that'd be the going rate unfortunately. If we could swap Rainer for Liranzo or Briceno, I'd do that deal. But in three years, McGonigle, Rainer and Clark up the middle.... sheeeeesh. Good core.

 

38 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said:

Take Shelby Miller out and https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-trades-that-should-happen-2025 says that Suarez and Merril Kelly would cost two top 100 players and a B level prospect. Oof.  

Again, most articles this time of year way over estimate teh cost. 

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, Hongbit said:

Tigers trade:

Thayran Lirzano

Troy Melton

Cris Rodriguez

Owen Hall

Jace Jung

 

Athletics trade:

Mason Miller

Luis Severino

Harris probably wouldn’t pull the trigger but Oakland is still a mess and would love someone to take the Severino contract they got into this year thinking they’d prosper in Sacramento and have the money.   Their future in Vegas is still up in the air as well.  

Harris probably wouldn’t pull the trigger , but it doesn't matter because Oakland says no anyway. Miller is under control through 2029.

[Hongbit]

 

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Harris probably wouldn’t pull the trigger , but it doesn't matter because Oakland says no anyway. Miller is under control through 2029.

Oakland is on the hook for potentially $44M for Severino the next two years. They probably wouldn’t  even have signed him if they knew the Vegas stadium deal was going so far over budget.  Getting out from that would save more dollars for them than arbitration years on Miller.   Those too may end up getting expensive too if he continues to pitch like he has.     

Edited 5 hours ago by Hongbit