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18 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

Taking my parents to this game. My dad is very cranky about the Tigers recent performance, so for their sake I hope they do well. I reassured him that they were saving up to impress him in person today.

Seeing your dad in action at the Kenny Rogers game was an absolute delight.

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They need to win 1 of these games and then take 2 of 3 from the Guardians. And they should be good.  

But Atlanta has won 5 in a row and the Tigers have lost 3 in a row.  Plus Morton is on the mound.  The offense better come to play today.

And I'm sure the pitchers will walk the guy in front of Olson because that's what guys like Morton and the relievers do.

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22 minutes ago, casimir said:

Here we go kids.  Win each of the next 3 series, the Tigers have a maximum of 71 losses.  The Clevelands are already at 71 losses.  Its just that simple.

1 or more wins by Cleveland in the Cleveland-Detroit series next week means the Guardians would win the tiebreaker. 

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All 4 of us are going tonight and Sunday.  I'm totally deflated.  It's been fun going to games for over a year now.

the team is going to, at best, back into the playoffs and lose 2 games to a WC team.  Oh well. That's what we sign up for as fans.  This is going to kill their ticket sales for next year.  Playoff tickets went on sale this week. Luckily they don't charge us until they actually make it and it's only 30+% per round.  

This week was so depressing.  I knew yesterday's game was gone when of course they ran into an out by going on contact from 3B when the infield in.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

I hate the contact play so much. The metrics must back it up, but it sure seems like it doesn't work way too often.

Yeah, I don't think they're catching anyone by surprise with their baserunning anymore.

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9 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

I hate the contact play so much. The metrics must back it up, but it sure seems like it doesn't work way too often.

I do too.  I brought it up before and it was said Dickerson said it works more often than not.  I don't see it. 

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11 minutes ago, oblong said:

I do too.  I brought it up before and it was said Dickerson said it works more often than not.  I don't see it. 

Even if it works more often than not, they price you pay when it doesn’t work should outweigh the benefit. 

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35 minutes ago, oblong said:

back into the playoffs

 

 

Nah, don't like this phrase.  If somehow they finish 7th and one of the 6 playoff eligible teams becomes ineligible and Detroit would take their place in the playoffs, then I can understand that phrase being used.

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18 minutes ago, oblong said:

I do too.  I brought it up before and it was said Dickerson said it works more often than not.  I don't see it. 

Second and third with one out might be the one occasion I can support it. You are essentially risking second and third with two outs for first and third with two outs. In either scenario you need a hit to score.  Contact play with second and third no outs makes no sense to me. You're putting a double play on the table, when previously it wasn't. Major league infielders just don't make wild throws often enough to make that a good risk to take. Though apparently it is...

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Well, I thought they would finish in 3rd or 4th in the division before the season started, so by that metric the season has been a success, but they are on the verge of throwing away a huge opportunity.

The playoffs are just about getting hot at the right time.  And getting a bye is such an advantage.

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26 minutes ago, casimir said:

Nah, don't like this phrase.  If somehow they finish 7th and one of the 6 playoff eligible teams becomes ineligible and Detroit would take their place in the playoffs, then I can understand that phrase being used.

I get it.  You play 162 and it shakes out the way it shakes out.  Games in late Sept. are the same as games in Mid June. My use of the phrase is more about the excitement level of charging up vs falling down.  It takes the steam out of the excitement when after a big lead you are losing and have to rely on other teams losing to guarantee your spot instead of keeping the momentum.  It's been an uninspired week so far and going from a first round bye to probably getting bounced out in 2 games like HOU last year puts a big damper on what's been a great 56 weeks of baseball for our team.

 

 

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1 hour ago, oblong said:

All 4 of us are going tonight and Sunday.  I'm totally deflated.  It's been fun going to games for over a year now.

the team is going to, at best, back into the playoffs and lose 2 games to a WC team.  Oh well. That's what we sign up for as fans.  This is going to kill their ticket sales for next year.  Playoff tickets went on sale this week. Luckily they don't charge us until they actually make it and it's only 30+% per round.  

This week was so depressing.  I knew yesterday's game was gone when of course they ran into an out by going on contact from 3B when the infield in.

 

 

I think they ran into that out with 0 out. Going on contact should only be done with 1 out.

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That's the highs and lows and would not be surprising.  

This is the first stress I've felt during this team's run going back to Aug of last year.  Last year was fun. It was all gravy. They cinched the playoffs on a friday so even though it was close standing wise, those Sat/Sun games against the Sox didn't matter.  Even losing to Cleveland didn't sting as they took them to 5 games and afterwards it was still satisfying.

This year's team just consistently won series after series and built up this huge lead.  Nothing to worry about.

I always viewed success this year as being in a competitive ALCS.  I'd have been content with that.  I wouldn't bet $50 on them making it to the ALCS let alone it being competitive.

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2 hours ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

Second and third with one out might be the one occasion I can support it. You are essentially risking second and third with two outs for first and third with two outs. In either scenario you need a hit to score.  Contact play with second and third no outs makes no sense to me. You're putting a double play on the table, when previously it wasn't. Major league infielders just don't make wild throws often enough to make that a good risk to take. Though apparently it is...

It is also dependent on who the opposition is, what the score is, how many runs you've scored that inning, and what inning it is.

Also agree that the double play comes onto the table, but also, a potential triple play if it's a sharp line drive to anyone on the infield, especially the third baseman playing in.

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11 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

Any news on Keith yet? I'm assuming the worst, and I think they will call up Jung to take his place. 

We're having problems scoring runs so this wouldn't be a good time to play Jung. Maybe use him for depth but we have a few options for 3rd base already on the team. McKinstry. Ibanez or Javy can all play 3rd base.

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2 hours ago, oblong said:

I saw a thing that said if the Tigers don't win the division it will be the biggest blown lead in history?  Is that right?

If you mean up the most games before losing a pennant or division, that might be right. I can't find any other team up as many as 14 and ending up out of first place.

If you mean the most sudden collapse at the end of a season, you would be definitely be correct, if we do end up blowing it. The gold standard has always been the 1951 Dodgers, who were up 13 on August 11 with 47 games left on the schedule before coughing up the pennant (or having it stolen from them) by Bobby Thomson and the Giants. Entire books have been written about that collapse (in part because they were the Brooklyn Dodgers, natch).

By contrast, the Tigers were up 11-1/2 on August 23 with 31 games left on the schedule. A slightly smaller number than 13, but way fewer games to blow it in. So yeah, I believe we would supplant those Dodgers as the worst late-season collapse ever.

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