2025-2026 Tigers Off Season Thread

[chasfh]

40 minutes ago, casimir said:

I’m fine with 2/$35M.  Can we move this forward, please?

I just used 2/28 and 2/35 as an example, rather than my personal benchmark for signing him. I was going off memory and didn't remember that MLBTR is projecting 2/38.

So let's revise what I said earlier to this:

I believe if hypothetically the Tigers offered Bassitt 2/38 and the best of the usual suspects offered him 2/36, he'd take the 2/36. I think in a case like that, we'd have to go way bigger, something like 2/44 or better, to win him.

Which, by the way, would make Bassitt way more highly-paid than Skubal, whom they are trying to pay $19 million. Imagine how well that would go over in the clubhouse.

[Tiger337]

39 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I just used 2/28 and 2/35 as an example, rather than my personal benchmark for signing him. I was going off memory and didn't remember that MLBTR is projecting 2/38.

So let's revise what I said earlier to this:

I believe if hypothetically the Tigers offered Bassitt 2/38 and the best of the usual suspects offered him 2/36, he'd take the 2/36. I think in a case like that, we'd have to go way bigger, something like 2/44 or better, to win him.

Which, by the way, would make Bassitt way more highly-paid than Skubal, whom they are trying to pay $19 million. Imagine how well that would go over in the clubhouse.

Flaherty and Cobb both made more than Skubal last year.  

[tiger2022]

They gave Flaherty $25 million last year with a $5 million signing bonus.  This year, Flaherty will make $20 million if he makes 15 starts.

And Skubal is only worth $19.5 million according to the FO.  Not only is he the best player on the team, but he seems to be the team leader too.  

And in his final year with the team, they aren't even trying to put a better team on the field behind him.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:06 AM by tiger2022

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

They gave Flaherty $25 million last year with a $5 million signing bonus.  This year, Flaherty will make $20 million if he makes 15 starts.

And Skubal is only worth $19.5 million according to the FO.  Not only is he the best player on the team, but he seems to be the team leader too.  

And in his final year with the team, they aren't even trying to put a better team on the field behind him.

 

 

if absolute performance were the only criterion in the arbitration process, then a lot of 6th yr guys ought to have been awarded a lot more than they ever were/are. I don't know all the things they factor in, but there have to be some pretty hard rules about service time and multiples from previous salaries that figure into the process.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, tiger2022 said:

They gave Flaherty $25 million last year with a $5 million signing bonus.  This year, Flaherty will make $20 million if he makes 15 starts.

And Skubal is only worth $19.5 million according to the FO.  Not only is he the best pitcher in baseball, but he seems to be the team leader too.  

And in his final year with the team, they aren't even trying to put a better team on the field behind him.

 

 

FTFY

[Sports_Freak]

There's a very real possibility that the Tigers will lose their 3 top starting pitchers after 2026. I'm totally against trading Skubal but if the right offer came along, the Tigers would be crazy to turn it down. But again, what team would trade players almost ML ready for a 1 year rental? And asking Harris to make a blockbuster trade? That would be kinda like asking Miguel Cabrera to play shortstop. 😅😅

[tiger2022]

In 2000 and 2001, his primary position was SS.  2000- 61 of 65 games at SS.  2001- 98 of 110 games at SS.

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Flaherty and Cobb both made more than Skubal last year.  

Cobb was never in the clubhouse, so that licks half the problem!

[GalagaGuy]

One of you hardcore Tigers fans needs to head over to Digg and create a Tigers community.  They opened up a few days ago and nobody has made one yet.  

[Sports_Freak]

16 hours ago, chasfh said:

I just used 2/28 and 2/35 as an example, rather than my personal benchmark for signing him. I was going off memory and didn't remember that MLBTR is projecting 2/38.

So let's revise what I said earlier to this:

I believe if hypothetically the Tigers offered Bassitt 2/38 and the best of the usual suspects offered him 2/36, he'd take the 2/36. I think in a case like that, we'd have to go way bigger, something like 2/44 or better, to win him.

Which, by the way, would make Bassitt way more highly-paid than Skubal, whom they are trying to pay $19 million. Imagine how well that would go over in the clubhouse.

Matthew Boyd at 30m/2years would have been a bargain last off-season. I dont see Detroit signing any pitcher more than what they offered Skubal. Maybe a reject trying to regain his stuff or somebody coming off of injury? You know, the bargain bin...

[Edman85]

I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but Dombrowski's original analytics guy, Director of Baseball Ops, Mike Smith is on Twitter and is an interesting follow if you are into the roster minutiae without the smug that I bring.

[Motor City Sonics]

Building towards the future and expecting to at least be a playoff-bound team this season, the real window is 2028/29

For position players we have the Core Four, who I expect to be around for the long laul

Carpetner

Dinger

Greene

Torkelson

 

The next four

Briceno

Clark

McGonigle

Rainer

 

So for 2028 we could have

c Dingler

1b Torkelson

2b McGonigle

ss Rainer

3b Keith?  

rf Carpenter

cf Clark

lf Greene

dh Briceno

 

That is potentially a very solid lineup. 

I doubt McKinstry's still going to be around, so maybe 3rd base will just be that position where they work a few guys in - or maybe someone is on the way.   I really think that this year, not signing an infielder means they want to see Max, Lee, Jung, Keith and Cruz all get a look at some point this season to see if any could stick.      

 

The pitching rotation though

If things pan out for all the guys 2028 could be

Jobe, Melton, Olson..........and?   and?    Where/who are the next guys?    At least one we get for Skubal?