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28 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

8 years isn’t 10.    

They’ve done a much better job of acquiring future draft assets during their stretch of ****itude than the Wings.  8 first rounders the last 3 years and they have 4 more coming in the next 2 years.  They also have 5 second rounders too.    Even a blind squirrel has to hit on a few of these.   

 

I like the trajectory of San Jose. Have missed the playoffs 7 straight years but were in the conference finals as recently as 2019 and didn't bottom out until 2024. Of course one can easily ask where they'd be without Macklin Celebrini but they sucked at the right time and won the right lottery, to complement u-24s like Will Smith, William Eklund, Collin Graf (44 Pts in 78 GPs this season from a 23 year old who went undrafted), Michael Misa (moved down 1 in lottery but still got #2 overall in 2025), Igor Chernyshov (16 PTs in 25GP this season from a 2024 early 2nd rounder), Sam Dickinson (69 GP this year from a 2024 #11 overall).

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2 hours ago, slothfacekilla said:

God internet Wings fans would lose their minds if they were on the Blackhawks trajectory, I can't even imagine

I think if we had Connor Bedard to build around instead of Dylan Larkin most internet fans would be elated. I know I would be. I think you'll always find a group of fans that bitch for the sake of it and wouldn't be happy even if we won the damn cup. But if we had Bedard to build around, I suspect this fan base would feel better and be more forgiving of the GM.

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10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

I think if we had Connor Bedard to build around instead of Dylan Larkin most internet fans would be elated. I know I would be. I think you'll always find a group of fans that bitch for the sake of it and wouldn't be happy even if we won the damn cup. But if we had Bedard to build around, I suspect this fan base would feel better and be more forgiving of the GM.

I imagine Wings fans would call Bedard a bust at this point if they had him

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24 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

I imagine Wings fans would call Bedard a bust at this point if they had him

he was hyped to be the next sidney crosby and he's fallen well short of that standard.

that said, the hype was the problem, not bedard.  he may be more like patrick kane, and i'm sure the hawks would take that.  besides, they used to call kane a disappointment too 

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1 minute ago, buddha said:

and celebrini has been better, which might sting a little.

Celebrini turned out to be under hyped and he was the consensus #1 player in his class.  

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I'd put Celebrini, Schaefer and Bedard in that order, but that trio of #1 picks is far superior to the three #1s before them - Slafkosky, Power and Lafreniere - even with Slafkosky coming into his own now and playing like a typical, say, #3 overall pick. 

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The Red Wings are not without talent. They should be able to bring up Carter Mazur and MBN next year, and hopefully Danielson. They have a really solid defense, which should be intact. Their goalie situation will be better with Cossa joining Gibson. I think the Wings will have two studs on the left side in Carter Bear and Eddie Genborg soon. I think they need to move on from Kane, Perron, and van Reimsdyk. They need to keep their roster younger and fresher. I think the biggest impact next year will come from Cossa, which will allow Gibson to stay fresher longer in the season. I wouldn't bring back a single UFA next year, and I think it's obvious they need to sign Edvinsson to a long term deal.

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Right now, I consider their defense to be Edvinsson/Seider, Chairot/Faulk, and Johansson/Bernard Docker. If there's a young player they should consider trading, I would trade ASP only to recoup a first round pick for this year.

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I would deal ASP.  too small.

but i doubt you'd get a first round pick back.

woukd anyone attach a 4th rounder to get rid of ras?  what would you attach to get compher off this team?

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10 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said:

The Red Wings are not without talent. They should be able to bring up Carter Mazur and MBN next year, and hopefully Danielson. They have a really solid defense, which should be intact. Their goalie situation will be better with Cossa joining Gibson. I think the Wings will have two studs on the left side in Carter Bear and Eddie Genborg soon. I think they need to move on from Kane, Perron, and van Reimsdyk. They need to keep their roster younger and fresher. I think the biggest impact next year will come from Cossa, which will allow Gibson to stay fresher longer in the season. I wouldn't bring back a single UFA next year, and I think it's obvious they need to sign Edvinsson to a long term deal.

but what level of talent?  do ANY of those guys profile as a first line skilled scoring winger?  maybe bear? 

looks like second and third line guys, which is fine, but not totally what they need.

plus, if history is a guide, none of those guys are going to make a meaningful contribution next year.  if the spine the wings is a bunch of rookies, they are likely to miss the playoffs again.

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