Red Wings November 2025 Game Threads

[Shinzaki]

This is starting to look like the last years of the Dumars Pistons...perpetually blah

[Motor City Sonics]

There needs to be a major change of some kind.   Several players need to go.     Gibson needs to go.   He's brutally bad.  He's Rogie Vachon-bad.     GAA of over 3.50.   His SvPct has be be lower than .860.    That's just not good enough.   And he's giving up softies too.      Cossa is playing extremely well at Grand Rapids.   He's earning at least a look.    

This season feels like it's very quickly slipping away now.  

 

Talbot hasn't been all that great either.   

 

 

[Motor City Sonics]

4 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Shake it up.

 

[Motor City Sonics]

Oh, and I understand the defense has been bad, but Gibson needs to rise up at SOME point. 

[1984Echoes]

15 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

 

 

Couple points in the Athletic's latest Red Wings article:

As Red Wings skid into 25-game mark, how fixable are their biggest issues? - The Athletic

1. The Red Wings have been outscored (5 on 5) 23-11 with Johansson on the ice. 14-3 with Hamonic on the ice. 8-7 (we scored more) with JBD on the ice (but those are the most protected minutes on the team).

SHAKE IT UP.

1S. (s = shake it up solution): Send Hamonic and Johansson to GR, call up Holl and Wallinder. They get 3rd pairing. Holl is the right vet to match up with Wallinder. He gets 10 games to prove he can hack it (Wallinder), or he needs more work and has to go back down to GR after 10 games. But at least he'll see exactly how big/strong/fast/tough the NHL is... so he'll know what he needs to do (IF he wants to stick in the NHL...). If he shows enough to stick in Detroit for the balance of the season, then that's just gravy.

If Wallinder needs to go back down to GR, sobeit. But Johansson doesn't get to come back up to Detroit automatically. Same with Hamonic. If, and only if, they are playing better. If Johansson is playing MUCH better, then he can get called back up. If not... I don't know what the next step will be... but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

BTW: Is MBN showing yet that he deserves another chance in Detroit?

2. Gibson right now is the 5th worst goalie giving up 3.78 goals MORE than expected, he so bad. Talbot is SAVING 2.33 goals above expected... but he's 38. Our season hinges on Talbot playing most of the games? At 38? Or is Gibson going to catch fire and start producing in goal a whole lot better (reducing the stress on Talbot of carrying this team)?

SHAKE IT UP.

2S. Call up Cossa. Same deal as Wallinder... 10 games. He either flashes enough to stick in Detroit, or he needs more GR time. Let's find out. Can we just send Gibson to GR? If not, we'll have to figure out how to compensate for a roster with 3 goalies. If he can, Cossa gets his 10-game audition. And Postava also can get a 10-game audition, if necessary.

Just to see what sticks. Maybe Gibson improves significantly in GR. Maybe Cossa sticks with a below 2.5 GA and a .900+ save %. Or Postava does.

SHAKE IT UP.

And let's see what happens.

3. The Wings are scoring on 7.2% of their shots. They're not at net front often enough (everyone can see that). There are so many struggling forwards on this team I don't even know where to begin. Kane/ Kasper, Copp/Compher, Soderblom/Berggren/Ras providing... not enough. But something has to change... so...

SHAKE IT UP.

3S. Soderblom/Berggren/Ras would be the easy solutions. Demote to GR... or just trade them. Or maybe it's easier to move Copp? Or worse, they would be lost for nothing if we tried to send them down to GR. So while I am being more of an advocate of SHAKING IT UP and giving chances to Lombardi/ MBN/ Mazur, who all 3 I think would add fantastic energy and skill and defense and a much higher net presence (with "young kid" limitations)...

I don't know what the exact recipe is for getting that done.

But I do want to...

SHAKE IT UP.

IMO.

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by 1984Echoes

[1984Echoes]

PS: I think Mazur is still injured so there's a waiting period on using him as some kind of solution... In any kind of injury situation with him, MBN, or Lombardo... obviously we'd have to wait on that... I'm just sayin'... It's time to shake things up (as soon as any injuries are cleared...).

[Shinzaki]

The D would look better if we had kept Maatta.

 

[1984Echoes]

Just now, Shinzaki said:

The D would look better if we had kept Maatta.

Yes. Even if he was 3rd pair.

And the D would have also looked better if we had found some way to keep Walman.

But that's water under the bridge (on both counts...).