Week Twelve: New York Giants (2-9) @ Detroit Lions (6-4)

[sagnam]

If he had that would have been really stupid, right? Or would it be 3d chess for the genius?  No matter what let’s pretend it wouldn’t help! At least we will have draft picks to use to trade up in the draft to draft a player we barely play.

The need to use hyperbole to negate any argument that goes counter to what the infallible Brad Holmes does is cult like. It’s ok to question people who are good at their job. And questioning decisions doesn’t equate to wanting to replace them.

[Jason_R]

Yes, I was making light of the argument that after Mahogany got injured on Sunday, Brad should have traded for an OL by the trade deadline at 4pm that Tuesday. 

I have also been critical of Brad’s tendency to reach in the middle rounds. I never liked Hooker. Martin at least had the physical attributes that you sometimes go out of your way to acquire. Manu does too, and hopefully he finally works out.

I am not concerned about TeSlaa. They are very slow about bringing on rookies. And the WR room is stacked so it is no surprise TeSlaa has not gotten a lot of snaps. But he  clearly has skills that translate to the NFL. 

[MichiganCardinal]

I think Mahagony will be back this season. At least that was the expectation when he went down.

I’m more worried about Decker’s durability and the interior’s ability to hold up against a good defensive front. This week may actually be a good test for the IOL (if last week wasn’t good enough).

[Mr.TaterSalad]

TJ Lang read a stat on Friday on Valenti's show that I thought was both interesting and concerning. The Lions offense hasn't caused one, single, defensive pass interference this entire season. TJ said he went through all the game logs and verified that the offense hasn't caused a single DPI. He attributed that to how off the passing game has looked and the lack of deep route designs this offense hasn't been running. That's shocking that through 10 have we haven't caused one DPI.

[sagnam]

9 hours ago, Jason_R said:

Yes, I was making light of the argument that after Mahogany got injured on Sunday, Brad should have traded for an OL by the trade deadline at 4pm that Tuesday. 

I have also been critical of Brad’s tendency to reach in the middle rounds. I never liked Hooker. Martin at least had the physical attributes that you sometimes go out of your way to acquire. Manu does too, and hopefully he finally works out.

I am not concerned about TeSlaa. They are very slow about bringing on rookies. And the WR room is stacked so it is no surprise TeSlaa has not gotten a lot of snaps. But he  clearly has skills that translate to the NFL. 

I’m sorry. I just let that get through the filter. My bad.

[Motown Bombers]

8 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

TJ Lang read a stat on Friday on Valenti's show that I thought was both interesting and concerning. The Lions offense hasn't caused one, single, defensive pass interference this entire season. TJ said he went through all the game logs and verified that the offense hasn't caused a single DPI. He attributed that to how off the passing game has looked and the lack of deep route designs this offense hasn't been running. That's shocking that through 10 have we haven't caused one DPI.

They only caused one all of last year. This isn’t new and happened during the Ben Johnson era. It’s contributed to the receivers getting great separation and Goff being more risk adverse and accurate. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

11 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

They only caused one all of last year. This isn’t new and happened during the Ben Johnson era. It’s contributed to the receivers getting great separation and Goff being more risk adverse and accurate. 

Lang seemed surprised by it himself and wondered if running more deep routes, fade routes, could help the Lions gain a few more penalties. 

[Sports_Freak]

12 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I think Mahagony will be back this season. At least that was the expectation when he went down.

I’m more worried about Decker’s durability and the interior’s ability to hold up against a good defensive front. This week may actually be a good test for the IOL (if last week wasn’t good enough).

It's really tough with another game in 4 days. And against Green Bay. I won't say that game will be a must win but it's a.....must win. 😅

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Lang seemed surprised by it himself and wondered if running more deep routes, fade routes, could help the Lions gain a few more penalties. 

The Lions don't have a big body contested catch receiver who can draw those penalties. I am surprised Williams doesn't draw more holds since he can run past any defender. 

[MichiganCardinal]

30 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

It's really tough with another game in 4 days. And against Green Bay. I won't say that game will be a must win but it's a.....must win. 😅

If I had a nickel for every game Lions fans have called a must win this season I would have a nickel for like half of our wins.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

The Lions don't have a big body contested catch receiver who can draw those penalties. I am surprised Williams doesn't draw more holds since he can run past any defender. 

He draws them, the officials just don't call them. But seriously, I would rather have receivers wide open than tightly covered to try to get DPI calls.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Sports_Freak]

Win the last early Sunday game on the schedule!!

[Mr.TaterSalad]

First play, ugh 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Annnnnnnnd Hutch jumps

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Are you ****ing kidding me right now? What a disaster of an opening drive for the defense. 

[Jason_R]

Pathetic. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Are we going to lose to a guy who stole crab legs?

[lordstanley]

2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Annnnnnnnd Hutch jumps

You should be allowed to jump once the play clock hits zero, even if the ball hasn’t been snapped. 

[TP_Fan]

Coaching is a real problem right now.  Continuously come out completely unprepared.  Hutch man, what a let down he is becoming. 3rd and 7 and is aggressively offside leading to the extended drive. He gives up the edge on every run play and makes so many mistakes.  He has regressed mentally.  

[Sports_Freak]

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Are you ****ing kidding me right now? What a disaster of an opening drive for the defense. 

Playing from behind again? That's the gamble when you defer. Maybe we'll get the ball at the end of the half and to start the 2nd half. Or...maybe not.

[TP_Fan]

It’s just pathetic how unprepared this team has been this year. 

[Jason_R]

Pathetic

[TP_Fan]

Embarrassing start.  Jsut absolutely pathetic football.  Campbell is woefully lost as a coach right now. He needs to snap out of it.  Offense is just a mess.  

[lordstanley]

Oh boy.