Red Wings December 2025 Game Threads

[sagnam]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

asp is not the equivalent of buium.  edvinsson is.

would any if you have traded a first, danielson, edvinsson, and mbn for hughes?

Not Edvinsson. But if he were 6’ 180 lbs then I would.

[lordstanley]

From May 14. 

 

[gehringer_2]

Still bummed. Hughes seemed like the guy that might have move Yzerman take his shot. Now we are left knowing that even as good a fit as there is out there either a)isn't going to temp Yzerman to make a bold move or b) is going to cost so much he shouldn't make a bold move.

Meanwhile the Wings go back to creeping toward respectability. 

[Motor City Sonics]

8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Still bummed. Hughes seemed like the guy that might have move Yzerman take his shot. Now we are left knowing that even as good a fit as there is out there either a)isn't going to temp Yzerman to make a bold move or b) is going to cost so much he shouldn't make a bold move.

Meanwhile the Wings go back to creeping toward respectability. 

It's about just being good enough to sell tickets and that's it.  It's depressing.  

Edited yesterday at 01:42 PM by Motor City Sonics

[buddha]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

It's about just being good enough to sell tickets and that's it.  It's depressing.  

you would have traded edvinsson in a package to get hughes?  

[Motor City Sonics]

7 minutes ago, buddha said:

you would have traded edvinsson in a package to get hughes?  

Yep.     

[Hongbit]

Minnesota trading for Hughes without signing him to an extension is either really ballsy or really stupid.   We will all find out in a few months.  

[lordstanley]

Doesn't look like Minnesota has a particularly high chance of signing Hughes. I can see him back on the trade market this summer. Multimillion question is how open is Hughes towards playing anywhere other than New Jersey in 2027

[gehringer_2]

40 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Doesn't look like Minnesota has a particularly high chance of signing Hughes. I can see him back on the trade market this summer. Multimillion question is how open is Hughes towards playing anywhere other than New Jersey in 2027

has he talked about playing with his brother? Everyone assumes it's a big deal but is it fact or just assumption?

[lordstanley]

 

[Jason_R]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

you would have traded edvinsson in a package to get hughes?  

Without a contract in place never in a million years. 

[lordstanley]

37 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

has he talked about playing with his brother? Everyone assumes it's a big deal but is it fact or just assumption?

Listening to the Canucks’ press conference yesterday, their conclusion by this fall that Hughes was 100% not going to sign with them was due in large part to Hughes wanting to be back east to be close to his brothers. So question is whether that means only NJ or whether Detroit would be close enough. I like my own brother very much but unless I have a chance to work for the same company as him I couldn’t care less whether he is one province over or three provinces over. 

[slothfacekilla]

42 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

has he talked about playing with his brother? Everyone assumes it's a big deal but is it fact or just assumption?

They've explicitly talked about it multiple times and the Vancouver GM straight up came out and said it earlier this season.  Here's one quote I found in quick google:

"Honestly, I'm not afraid to say it. Eventually I'd love to play with him. And whether that's in New Jersey or at what time that takes, at some point, I want to play with Quinn," he said, via The Athletic. "But yeah, that's the question going around. They talk all day about it up in Vancouver, you know? But yeah, I'd love to play with Quinn at some point."

[Shinzaki]

I would not have given up Ed, Kasper and Danielson to get Hughes...even if he agreed to an extension.  

 

[buddha]

i could see both sides, but feel like detroit is better off not giving up edvinsson to meet that price for a guy who may be gone in 2 years.

assuming edvinsson re-signs here.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

i could see both sides, but feel like detroit is better off not giving up edvinsson to meet that price for a guy who may be gone in 2 years.

assuming edvinsson re-signs here.

even if you sign him, it's two steps forward one step back. They can't back-fill well enough for Edvinsson to make Hughes enough of an add.

[Hongbit]

There’s a much bigger difference both now  and in future potential between Quinn Hughes and Simon Edvinsson than this board is giving credit.    That’s not a shot on Simon.  He’s good and stands to be really good in the future.   Quinn Hughes is a unique talent that has a chance to be one of the all time greats.   

[buddha]

29 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

There’s a much bigger difference both now  and in future potential between Quinn Hughes and Simon Edvinsson than this board is giving credit.    That’s not a shot on Simon.  He’s good and stands to be really good in the future.   Quinn Hughes is a unique talent that has a chance to be one of the all time greats.   

if it was straight up, then yes you make that trade every day if the week.  but edvinsson, kasper/danielson, mbn and a #1 pick is too much.  then your whole team is one line and one pair of defenders.  everything else is trash and no way to grow out of it.

hughes is good, but he's not bobby orr.

[Hongbit]

Hughes is either the best or 2nd best defenseman in the league.  You are getting a superstar with a chance to be in the lineup for the next 10 years.   

Kasper and Danielson are still very much prospects.  They have much work to do in order to cement their part in the longterm plan.   I don’t think you become the Edmonton Oilers by trading them away.   

Edited 13 hours ago by Hongbit

[lordstanley]

Another good night for the Copp-Kane-DeBrincat line. Then Finnie adds one. 3-0 Wings over Hawks in Chicago, late in 2nd. 

[lordstanley]

Another shutout win for the Wings, 4-0, as they wrap up a fine 4-1-1 road trip. 

[Motor City Sonics]

4-1-1 is absolutely terrific when you consider they went 3-1 on the West Coast swing. 

Being on a long roadie can build team unity.  Sometimes it works.  

And it doesn't matter if Seattle, Vancouver and Calgary aren't good this year.  West Coast sings are tough

Now, based on the last few years,   when are they going to go into that tailspin?    Can we maybe avoid that this season and be consistent?  

 

[Motor City Sonics]

18-15 with a Goal Differential that looks like a Wind Chill temperature.       

[gehringer_2]

Healthy Bernard-Docker is a plus over Hamonic. But good goal tending makes all the difference. Wings are still making their share of mistakes but they aren't all turning into goals against.

Edited 11 hours ago by gehringer_2