gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 02:29 AM Posted Monday at 02:29 AM Talbot needed the win. He wasn't great on the second Caps goal - probably screened but if he's in better position it's still a stop. But was good otherwise. Quote
buddha Posted Monday at 04:19 AM Posted Monday at 04:19 AM beating the islanders and then the caps twice is a really good outcome. wings are sitting pretty good right now. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 04:32 AM Posted Monday at 04:32 AM 12 minutes ago, buddha said: beating the islanders and then the caps twice is a really good outcome. wings are sitting pretty good right now. plus they get a little deeper when Kane returns. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Monday at 04:53 PM Posted Monday at 04:53 PM 18 hours ago, buddha said: Is there a bottom to this? I'd love to see the Johansson-Hamonic and Johansson-JBD numbers... Quote
buddha Posted Monday at 05:08 PM Posted Monday at 05:08 PM 14 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Is there a bottom to this? I'd love to see the Johansson-Hamonic and Johansson-JBD numbers... https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm sixth worst in the league. right ahead of nurse-walman, btw. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Monday at 05:46 PM Posted Monday at 05:46 PM 28 minutes ago, buddha said: https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm sixth worst in the league. right ahead of nurse-walman, btw. I just looked at xGoals For versus xGoals Against: Seider-Edvinsson: +8.4 (xGF 24.1 - xGA 15.7 = 8.4) Johansson-JBD: +1.6 (xGF 9.6 - xGA 8 = 1.6) Chiarot-ASP: -2 (xGF 17.2 - xGA 19.2 = -2.0) Johansson-Hamonic: -3.3 (xGF 6.6 - xGA 8.9 = -3.3) Edvinsson-ASP: -3.4 (xGF 4.1 - xGA 7.5 = -3.4) Quote
slothfacekilla Posted Monday at 06:06 PM Posted Monday at 06:06 PM 57 minutes ago, buddha said: https://moneypuck.com/lines.htm sixth worst in the league. right ahead of nurse-walman, btw. Quote
buddha Posted Monday at 07:07 PM Posted Monday at 07:07 PM 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: I just looked at xGoals For versus xGoals Against: Seider-Edvinsson: +8.4 (xGF 24.1 - xGA 15.7 = 8.4) Johansson-JBD: +1.6 (xGF 9.6 - xGA 8 = 1.6) Chiarot-ASP: -2 (xGF 17.2 - xGA 19.2 = -2.0) Johansson-Hamonic: -3.3 (xGF 6.6 - xGA 8.9 = -3.3) Edvinsson-ASP: -3.4 (xGF 4.1 - xGA 7.5 = -3.4) if you believe in hockey analytics...asp has been very very bad at defense this year. no matter who they put with him. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted Monday at 08:00 PM Posted Monday at 08:00 PM 40 minutes ago, buddha said: if you believe in hockey analytics...asp has been very very bad at defense this year. no matter who they put with him. ASP is one of those guys who I can't figure out why he's in the league as a defenseman. He has a hockey skill set but it's much more an offensive one than a defensive one. I guess it just highlights the size of the step up to the NHL (pun inteneded). The NHL is fully of really big guys today. ASP is at too much physical disadvantage to the guys he has to go against. If you are going to keep a guy like that as PP specialist you're going to have to keep him paired with a really good stay at home guy the rest of the time. Gostisbehere V2.0 is probably his ceiling as a Dman. Quote
buddha Posted Monday at 08:15 PM Posted Monday at 08:15 PM 12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: ASP is one of those guys who I can't figure out why he's in the league as a defenseman. He has a hockey skill set but it's much more an offensive one than a defensive one. I guess it just highlights the size of the step up to the NHL (pun inteneded). The NHL is fully of really big guys today. ASP is at too much physical disadvantage to the guys he has to go against. If you are going to keep a guy like that as PP specialist you're going to have to keep him paired with a really good stay at home guy the rest of the time. Gostisbehere V2.0 is probably his ceiling as a Dman. when he was drafted, gistisberhere was his most likely comp is he panned out. those of us dreamers like me were pining away for erik karlsson 2.0...but when karlsson was asp's age he was already an all star. when he was 21 he won the norris. i might have been a little ambitious. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted Monday at 10:37 PM Posted Monday at 10:37 PM 2 hours ago, buddha said: when he was drafted, gostisberhere was his most likely comp is he panned out. those of us dreamers like me were pining away for erik karlsson 2.0...but when karlsson was asp's age he was already an all star. when he was 21 he won the norris. i might have been a little ambitious. I'm not going to say Karlsson... But he was -9 in October and -3 in November and -2 in December... So... Maybe he's improving a little bit? I know he'll have his ups and downs (the past week was a big downer for him...), But I expect him to get a bit stronger for next year now that he is experiencing just how difficult the NHL is... Again, I'm not going to say Karlsson... But I am certainly hoping that he can be better than Gostis 2.0. Quote
1984Echoes Posted Monday at 10:56 PM Posted Monday at 10:56 PM PS: On the bright side... ASP is 20 years old. And in the NHL already on a 2nd pairing with Ben Chiarot. Quote
buddha Posted yesterday at 12:36 AM Posted yesterday at 12:36 AM asp is fine. his defense is bad as a 20 year old rookie. that's fine. most are. he'll be ok. i'm happy he's in the nhl and learning. Quote
lordstanley Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago This game against #2 in the NHL Dallas should be a good measuring stick. JVR has given the Wings a 1-0 ten minutes in. Quote
Shinzaki Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I was worried that JVR was goingvto be Tarasenko 2.0. He's been much better than that. Nice play by Ras to set him up. Used that size and strength well for a change Quote
lordstanley Posted 12 hours ago Author Posted 12 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: I was worried that JVR was goingvto be Tarasenko 2.0. He's been much better than that. Nice play by Ras to set him up. Used that size and strength well for a change With 8G 1A he is a mid season contender for the NHL’s unofficial Cy Young award. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/the-10-greatest-cy-young-seasons-in-nhl-history Quote
lordstanley Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago (edited) Dallas has dominated the 2nd period. Wings couldn't quite hang on until the intermission. 2-1 Dallas. Edited 10 hours ago by lordstanley Quote
lordstanley Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Good game. The Wings aren't going away. Larkin ties the game at 3 with a few minutes left in the 3rd. Edited 10 hours ago by lordstanley Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) On 12/22/2025 at 7:36 PM, buddha said: asp is fine. his defense is bad as a 20 year old rookie. that's fine. most are. he'll be ok. i'm happy he's in the nhl and learning. a problem that's not going to go away for smaller D men in today's game without rule changes is that you need brute strength to clear the front of the net more than ever today because the league is allowing less hacking/cross checking of offensive players near the crease. Edited 10 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
lordstanley Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago Overtime. Can't complain about that, win or lose. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago This winning is getting...interesting.The Wings are beating good teams...hot teams....all teams..... Quote
GalagaGuy Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago That's a nice win against the best road team in the league. Quote
lordstanley Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Best month in a long time. December: 9-2-1 for 19 points in 12 games, by my count. Edited 10 hours ago by lordstanley 1 Quote
lordstanley Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: This winning is getting...interesting.The Wings are beating good teams...hot teams....all teams..... Maybe Yzerman and McLellan have been reading my unsolicited texts. Edited 10 hours ago by lordstanley 1 1 Quote
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