12/15/25 7:00PM Pistons @ Celtics

[Tigeraholic1]

TD Garden - Boston, MA 

[Deleterious]

xRAPM numbers

Player	Team	Offense	Defense(*)	Total
Tobias Harris	DET	0.4 (75)	-2.4 (95)	2.8 (92)
Cade Cunningham	DET	2.2 (93)	-0.5 (75)	2.7 (91)
Ausar Thompson	DET	0.3 (73)	-2.3 (95)	2.6 (90)
Jalen Duren	DET	2.5 (95)	0.5 (50)	2.0 (85)
Caris LeVert	DET	1.1 (88)	-0.6 (77)	1.7 (84)
Duncan Robinson	DET	0.9 (83)	-0.4 (74)	1.3 (81)
Isaiah Stewart	DET	-0.4 (64)	-1.7 (90)	1.3 (80)
Javonte Green	DET	-0.6 (58)	-0.8 (79)	0.2 (71)
Ronald Holland II	DET	-1.3 (47)	-1.2 (85)	-0.1 (65)
Paul Reed	DET	-1.4 (46)	-0.1 (68)	-1.3 (51)
Jaden Ivey	DET	-0.6 (59)	1.3 (25)	-1.9 (45)
Marcus Sasser	DET	-1.4 (46)	0.9 (40)	-2.3 (40)
Colby Jones	DET	-2.2 (33)	0.9 (38)	-3.1 (31)
Wendell Moore Jr.	DET	-2.7 (24)	0.7 (44)	-3.4 (26)
Daniss Jenkins	DET	-2.8 (22)	1.1 (31)	-3.9 (22)
Isaac Jones	DET	-3.1 (19)	1.5 (18)	-4.6 (15)
Chaz Lanier	DET	-3.5 (11)	1.6 (14)	-5.1 (10)
Tolu Smith	DET	-3.8 (6)	1.4 (20)	-5.2 (9)
Bobi Klintman	DET	-3.7 (9)	1.6 (14)	-5.3 (8)

[Deleterious]

Most people that signed as free agents this summer are now eligible to be traded.  Guys that signed later in the summer still are not.  Guys like Grimes, Giddey, and Kuminga will be eligible January 15th I believe.  

PJ Washington signed his extension after the season started.  So he is not eligible to be traded until March sometime.  It's after the trade deadline so he basically can not be traded this season.

Trade deadline is February 5th.

[buddha]

i dont think those number adequately address what lavert is contributing in his time on the floor.

[Deleterious]

My god

Pistons’ focus is development, not big moves, at NBA trade deadline

Quote

Duren also is in the process of earning himself a significant payday. According to The Athletic’s CBA/salary-cap analyst Danny Leroux, who estimates a $166 million cap for 2026-27, Duren could sign a four-year, $178.5 million offer sheet with another team or a five-year, $240.7 million contract with the Pistons. That number jumps to five years, $288.8 million if he makes an All-NBA team this season. Assuming Duren’s high-level play remains consistent throughout the season, Detroit will likely do its part to retain the big man.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

That Duren money is like telling your kid to pitch left handed, stoopid money.

[buddha]

2 hours ago, Deleterious said:

My god

Pistons’ focus is development, not big moves, at NBA trade deadline

 

trade him now.

[Deleterious]

50 three point attempts incoming. 

[Deleterious]

Basketball reference needs to add a new stat for Holland. Dumb things done per game.

[papalawrence]

Peacock announcer said Pritchard plays like a little angry hamster, lol

[Deleterious]

Bad end to the half.

[gehringer_2]

Pistons have missed 7 FTs, 6 by Ausar.  😡

[Deleterious]

I think it would be incredibly frustrating if my team shot three pointers like Boston does. So many possessions where the ball doesn't even go inside the three point line.

[casimir]

Blaha is pretty whiny tonight.

[casimir]

13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Pistons have missed 7 FTs, 6 by Ausar.  😡

Pretty inexcusable.

[casimir]

Cunningham ain’t going to lose this game.

[papalawrence]

What a great game. Boston played well. Brown is an all-nba guy and White was on fire again, and Det comes away with the win. Fun game to watch. Ivey is starting to show a bit more composure with facilitating and his D was impressive. They still need work against the zone but it's scary that they're still improving

[gehringer_2]

Cade decided he was a 3pt shooter tonight.

[papalawrence]

I really enjoy Brown and White's games. They have dna similar to Detroit

[Deleterious]

 

[gehringer_2]

tough night for Duren

[Deleterious]

 

[buddha]

cade is impressive.  who is their #2 scoring option in the playoffs when they double team cade every time he gets the ball?

[Deleterious]

48 minutes ago, buddha said:

cade is impressive.  who is their #2 scoring option in the playoffs when they double team cade every time he gets the ball?

He is currently on another team.  

[buddha]

11 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

He is currently on another team.  

i think so too.

my worry is they have a great regular season team because they try hard and play defense when no one else in the league competes like that on a regular basis.  and they have a guy who can get buckets when they need it as well as almost anyone in the league.

but come playoff time when teams game plan them every game, theyre going to take away duren's roll game (they already kind of have), hunt robinson and duren on switches on defense, make ausar shoot, and double team cade and make him work at the other end.  get the ball out of his hands.

have to get a legit second ball handler (jenkins aint it) and hopefully a wing who can score on his own and play defense.

i dont think they'll need to break the bank for murphy, but he would fill that bill quite nicely.  i'd definitely include ivey and a couple firsts to do it.