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1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

I was very surprised when they said an 18 year old was Arnold’s girlfriend.   I was even more surprised when I saw her mugshot.  It makes much more sense that he wasn’t dating her. 

Well, after reading this I had to look up this mugshot and I think Arnold has been exonerated. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Pretty emphatic denial by Arnold's attorney. I have a feeling Arnold was involved but there isn't sufficient evidence. 

 

Yeah, I hate this crap because it's all a bunch of he said/she said stuff right now. On one hand, I'm happy to see TA releasing a statement that he wasn't involved. On the other hand, that's kinda what I'd expect anyone to do, even if he or she was involved in some way.

On one hand "...Mr. Arnold had no involvement whatsoever in the activities that led to those arrests. He didn't participate in, nor was he present for, any conducted related to the alleged offenses." But on the other hand, the statement doesn't say he wasn't involved in discussing it in a car trip like was alleged in the order. Nor does it deny knowing about the plans of the others.

But am I just nitpicking? Am I just parsing the language of the statement too much fearing that they're using specific language to hide the truth? Again... I hate this crap.

Posted
21 minutes ago, RedRamage said:

Yeah, I hate this crap because it's all a bunch of he said/she said stuff right now. On one hand, I'm happy to see TA releasing a statement that he wasn't involved. On the other hand, that's kinda what I'd expect anyone to do, even if he or she was involved in some way.

On one hand "...Mr. Arnold had no involvement whatsoever in the activities that led to those arrests. He didn't participate in, nor was he present for, any conducted related to the alleged offenses." But on the other hand, the statement doesn't say he wasn't involved in discussing it in a car trip like was alleged in the order. Nor does it deny knowing about the plans of the others.

But am I just nitpicking? Am I just parsing the language of the statement too much fearing that they're using specific language to hide the truth? Again... I hate this crap.

I think "whatsoever" means whatsoever.

Whether it means that one of those charged won't ultimately tell prosecutors that Arnold was the ringleader in the conspiracy to try to get a lesser sentence remains to be determined.

Whether it means Arnold is actually charged with a crime, let alone convicted, is a long ways away.

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