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22 minutes ago, oblong said:

I'm not opposed to that but it is a side effect and if the intent is to make them a democratic seat, under the guise of racial equality, rather than siply minority represented (which is a key difference to me) then the overall effect may be negated.  

The gutting of the VRA on net is bad in my view. But the part that doesn't get talked about is that removing requirements for states like AL, SC or MS also means removing the same requirements for states like CA, NY or IL. All of whom could draw even more aggressive maps favoring Ds without VRA requirements to adhere to.

On pure partisanship it nets out worse for the Ds, but it's hard to tell the effects without discussing how blue states might react as well

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15 hours ago, Edman85 said:

Gerrymandering is a lot more complex than people make it.

True as this may be, Democrats also can't unilaterally disarm and allow themselves to get run over by an explicitly immoral and unethical opponent. Not a good place to be in as a country, but, here we are.

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Piece by Ben Rhodes (Obama admim alum) about Platner in the Times today. FWIW, he does not think Platner is a Nazi candidate - he thinks he's an anti-war, anti-military-industrial complex candidate.

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5 hours ago, romad1 said:

the devious attempts to use Obama images to juice No vote failed because African Americans are not "low IQ" like Trump says they are. 

 

It's one thing to use this trope for political advantage with their rube base, and they may win a battle here and there by cynically employing it. But when they themselves believe it—IOW, when they're getting high on their own supply—they can't win the war.

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I have MLBTV for Tigers games. The only ads I saw all weekend were of some geezer standing in front of his tractor telling me to vote no.

Every half inning, every pitching change. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday…..

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3 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I have MLBTV for Tigers games. The only ads I saw all weekend were of some geezer standing in front of his tractor telling me to vote no.

Every half inning, every pitching change. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday…..

"Yes" didn't actually get that great of turnout compared to "No".... The analysis post-vote suggests that yesterday's electorate may have been more Republican than the one that gave Glenn Youngkin a win in 2021.

But they drove home the message in NoVa hard and the swings in each of the counties around Washington were enormous. 

The two takeaways I have from the affair is that Elon Musk and DOGE get an assist in getting this across the finish line and that, in a Midterm environment where there are actual candidates on the ballot and not an issue referendum like this one, it's not going to go nearly as well for them electorate-composition wise as this one did

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1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said:

I have MLBTV for Tigers games. The only ads I saw all weekend were of some geezer standing in front of his tractor telling me to vote no.

Every half inning, every pitching change. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday…..

i saw both kinds.   

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5 minutes ago, romad1 said:

 

Well, there is a missile manufacturer going in near Toano. Konesberg Manufacturing. They broke ground about a month ago.

Raised a big stink among the know nothings. Hated to tell them about the Navy facility down the road near Yorktown 

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