The NFL Coaching Carousel pre-2026 edition

[Motor City Sonics]

The Giants interviewing Mike McCarthy.   

 

Isn't he kind of like Jeff Fisher?   He's just there.   The very definition of a re-tread? 

 

I mean, he wouldn't be bad, but does he inspire any excitement? 

[MichiganCardinal]

Mike McCarthy is worse than vanilla ice cream.

[Jason_R]

The Mara family likes vanilla ice cream. 

[Shinzaki]

Per ESPN...Dolphins just fired McDaniel

[Motor City Sonics]

12 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Mike McCarthy is worse than vanilla ice cream.

Years ago I would agree with the "worse than vanilla ice cream" being an insult.    But then I had high quality vanilla ice cream and my attitude has changed.   Do vanilla right and it's great.    Vanilla gelato at Zingerman's in Ann Arbor blows the chocolate away.    

Sometimes vanilla is good and when you have been casting about in a sea of mediocrity as long as the Giants had, maybe you need the stabilizing effect of a Mike McCarthy to correct things before you go and get the exciting guy.    

I mean, like Jeff Fisher, you're always probably going to be in the 7-10 win range, hoping for a couple lucky breaks or a perfectly-timed hot streak like they did when they denied the Patriots an undefeated season.   

 

I think Mike McDaniel was fired because they have already hired John Harbaugh.    Stephen Ross -  Michigan connection.  

Maybe the belief is Harbaugh and Monken can resurrect Tua's career.    But if that's the case, you better have a really good back up because that one bad hit is always looming.   If he gets another obvious concussion, they can't let him play again.   

 

Edited Thursday at 03:53 PM by Motor City Sonics

[MichiganCardinal]

9 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Years ago I would agree with the "worse than vanilla ice cream" being an insult.    But then I had high quality vanilla ice cream and my attitude has changed.   Do vanilla right and it's great.    Vanilla gelato at Zingerman's in Ann Arbor blows the chocolate away.    

Sometimes vanilla is good and when you have been casting about in a sea of mediocrity as long as the Giants had, maybe you need the stabilizing effect of a Mike McCarthy to correct things before you go and get the exciting guy.    

These are good takes and better segues, get this guy in front of a mic. 😉 

[MichiganCardinal]

Coaching Carousel Predictions 1.0: The Year of Retreads

Baltimore Ravens: Jesse Minter, Chargers DC
Las Vegas Raiders: Robert Saleh, 49ers DC
Tennessee Titans: Matt Nagy, Chiefs OC
Miami Dolphins: John Harbaugh, former Ravens HC
New York Giants: Kevin Stefanski, former Browns HC
Atlanta Falcons: Kliff Kingsbury, former Commanders OC
Cleveland Browns: Davis Webb, Broncos QB Coach
Arizona Cardinals: Klint Kubiak, Seahawks OC

Brian Dabboll: Baltimore Ravens OC
Pete Carroll: USC Trojans Special Advisor
Brian Callahan: Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Analyst
Mike McDaniel: Detroit Lions OC
Raheem Morris: Washington Commanders DC
Jonathan Gannon: New York Giants DC

[1984Echoes]

Anyone think the Browns could give Schwartz a 2nd shot...?

[MichiganCardinal]

42 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Anyone think the Browns could give Schwartz a 2nd shot...?

He’s the players choice, but if they cared about what the players wanted they probably wouldn’t have fired Stefanski

[sagnam]

Stephen Ross on Mike McDaniel firing: Our organization is in need of comprehensive change

 

“After careful evaluation and extensive discussions since the season ended, I have made the decision that our organization is in need of comprehensive change.”

 

 

He’s so close to seeing the problem.

[Motor City Sonics]

9 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

Anyone think the Browns could give Schwartz a 2nd shot...?

If they hire Schwartz they need to absolutely nail it when it comes to OC.    

I think the Cardinals are going into an absolute "strip it down to it's skeleton" rebuild.    There are teams that will want to trade for Kyler Murray and the Browns are one of them.    Sanders is a backup.     

List of teams that may be interested in Kyler Murray

- Vikings   (they would have to send JJ McCarthy to the Cardinals as part of it, but did he show enough this year for Minnesota to believe in him?)

- Browns   (where QB's go to die, the list is impressive)

- Raiders   (they'll want a splashy name for coach and QB.  I could see Kliff Kingsbury being hired and a trade for Kyler so they can be reunited, and it feels so good, only it would be bad because it's the Raiders and Mark Davis is a nepo baby failure)

- Jets   (all of a sudden the Pats got really good again, but the Jets first year under Aaron Glenn looked like the Lions first year under Campbell..........do you have faith they can nail their draft picks or acquire a good QB.    They were close in a lot of their losses until the last month, they could turn things around with just 3 or 4 shrewd moves.)  

- Steelers   They squeaked into the playoffs with an old man at QB, but they've been looking for their next QB since Rapelisberger retired.   Murray is entering mid-career now, with some fun and flashy highlights and not much more. 

 

You can add Atlanta and Tampa to the list as well. 

The Cardinals could get a pretty good deal to start their rebuild with a Kyler Murray trade, but, I'm forgetting myself, they're the Cardinals.   One of the biggest Afterthoughts in the NFL.  

 

 

 

 

 

[Motor City Sonics]

Speaking of coaches

With the very quick turnaround of the Broncos under Sean Payton,  does it put him on the Mt. Rushmore of coaches in the Super Bowl era?   

If I was picking that it would probably be   Andy Reid - Chuck Noll - Bill Belichick - Bill Walsh

I think they are all better coaches than Vince Lombardi.   And if I was gonna knock off one of those four to make room for Payton it might be Belichick.   Yeah, it might be.   Never won without Brady.  Brady won the first year away from him and made a serious bid the next.    Belichick went nowhere.  Had plenty of time to rebuild it too.   

Edited 20 hours ago by Motor City Sonics

[MichiganCardinal]

Speaking of the impending QB Carousel, I would expect Tua to be on the move as well.

The Raiders, Jets, and Cardinals are picking 1-3 and each may take their rookie. Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore, and Ty Simpson have a chance to go 1-3 in some order.

If the Browns want to cut their losses, they'll probably have to make a trade. Same for the Dolphins at #11, Vikings at #18, and maybe even the Panthers at #19.

[Motown Bombers]

Tua has like $50 million guaranteed. If Miami is going full rebuild, they mak cut Bradley Chubb who could be an intriguing option for the Lions. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Wrong thread.

Edited 15 hours ago by Mr.TaterSalad

[MichiganCardinal]

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Does "same approach as last year" at the Edge position mean Marcus Davenport is back again? Because that was their approach last season. As for the "position wasn't ignored in the draft it just didn't come together" comment about Edge, I guess a guy they like didn't fall to them and so they didn't make a pick. To some fans, they will see not drafting one as ignoring it or at least inactivity.

Remember, they could have drafted Mike Green, but chose not to draft him. Now Green didn't light the world on fire as a rookie, but he was touted as one of the best pure pass rushers coming into the draft. I certainly recognize though that Mike Green doesn't check the culture fit box for the organization and was never likely an option given the sexual assault allegations in his past.

I think it means nothing at all.

Anything they do could be defined as the same approach as last year. If they trade for Maxx Crosby, well they tried last year but the price was too high. If they draft a 1st round edge, well they wanted to last year but the value wasn't there (or character RE Mike Green). If they sign Trey Hendrickson in free agency, well they wanted to sign a free agent last year but they got out-bid. If they do none of that and run it back with multiple high-injury risk players like Davenport, Paschal, Onwuzurike, etc., along with next year's version of AQM, well that's the same approach and the same result.

That being said, I doubt they bring back Davenport. He was useless and I suspect they'll cut their losses. Doesn't mean next year's Davenport will be any less injury prone though.

[Jason_R]

The biggest issue was not at edge. It was with injury and ineffectiveness at DT, and was exacerbated by losing two Pro Bowl safeties in addition to both starting CBs. 

[Motor City Sonics]

Can you imagine Deion going to the Raiders?   

That's would be so Raiders.   What a disaster.    The Raiders play The Browns.  What if his son is starting for the Browns that game?   

Oh, never mind, he'll talk the Raiders into trading for him and then they can have another well below average QB.