Ivey traded to Chicago for Kevin Huerter and Dario Saric

[RatkoVarda]

cannot package Huerter's contract with others

wish they had found a way to dump LeVert's contract

Donsunmu would have been better add I think

Minny got huge $ benefit from dumping Conley, and it should have cost them more

[papalawrence]

52 minutes ago, buddha said:

why?

Because he's overseen them go from 14 wins to the top of the East in 2 years

[Deleterious]

There is one way to package Huerter with others for a bigger deal.  Don't report the trade to the league.

All three teams agree to the trade, then don't report it to the league.  It would give the Pistons a day or two to work on a bigger trade.  For example, they add Brooklyn to the deal as a fourth team but instead of Huerter going to Detroit, he goes to Brooklyn plus LeVert and picks from Detroit for MPJ.  

If Detroit can't work out a larger deal, the three teams just turn in the original trade to the league right before the deadline on Thursday.

I'm not saying that is what is happening here.  Just saying it is  a possibility.  

 

[buddha]

5 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

There is one way to package Huerter with others for a bigger deal.  Don't report the trade to the league.

All three teams agree to the trade, then don't report it to the league.  It would give the Pistons a day or two to work on a bigger trade.  For example, they add Brooklyn to the deal as a fourth team but instead of Huerter going to Detroit, he goes to Brooklyn plus LeVert and picks from Detroit for MPJ.  

If Detroit can't work out a larger deal, the three teams just turn in the original trade to the league right before the deadline on Thursday.

I'm not saying that is what is happening here.  Just saying it is  a possibility.  

 

i think they want heurter because he can shoot.

saric is the deal i dont understand.  you HAD to take saric in order to move the former #5 pick in the draft for a 3 point shooter who plays no defense?

[buddha]

30 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

Because he's overseen them go from 14 wins to the top of the East in 2 years

i think that has to do with cade and firing monty williams.  trajan can take credit for replacing monty, but the cade thing is due to health.

bringing in beasley last year was a plus.  duncan has turned out ok so far (although i think he'll get beasley'd in the playoffs), lavert has sucked.  holland hasnt been anything great.

the pistons going from the worst team ever to good was due to internal growth and minor edge tinkering.  now comes the hard part, moving from good to a contender.  i dont think the pistons are there yet.

heurter aint gonna do it, but lets see if there is another shoe to drop.

[casimir]

I don’t like this trade by itself.  I get the extra bit of outside shooting (maybe).  I get the lack of wanting to extend Ivey.  But I guess if Ivey had that little of trade value, is there much sense in moving him?  He’s still coming off of a lost season, so, maybe ride this season out and see what happens?

Guess we’ll see what else shakes out.

[Deleterious]

13 minutes ago, buddha said:

i think they want heurter because he can shoot.

saric is the deal i dont understand.  you HAD to take saric in order to move the former #5 pick in the draft for a 3 point shooter who plays no defense?

Just looked at the Bulls cap sheet after the Vuc-Simons trade.  They are $4 million under the 1st apron.  So they had to send Saric out to stay under it.  Why Detroit helped them do that without being compensated is still a mystery, though.  

[Hongbit]

Just now, Deleterious said:

Just looked at the Bulls cap sheet after the Vuc-Simons trade.  They are $4 million under the 1st apron.  So they had to send Saric out to stay under it.  Why Detroit helped them do that without being compensated is still a mystery, though.  

Hmm.  Maybe there is a 4th part to this deal that will make it all make sense.   The Bulls still want to part with Ayo and White.    Please be Brooklyn or New Orleans!!!

[RatkoVarda]

I think they are going into playoff mode in March, so minutes will get tighter, and giving Ivey any run, a guy who is not in your PO rotation, makes no sense

[Deleterious]

OK, just read about the new(er) trade rules regarding salary.  Teams under the 1st apron can get back $7.5 million more than they send out, which is how Detroit could send out Ivey at $10 million and get Huerter back at $17 million.  

That makes the trade a little more interesting.  Because they could trade Huerter alone, and the same $7.5 million rule would apply.  Meaning they could target someone making $24.5 million.  

They could also do that with Saric, but at his lower salary it changes to 200% of his salary, so they could target someone for about $10 million.  

Or they do nothing, who knows.  

 

 

[buddha]

there has to be another trade.

[1984Echoes]

How about Duncan + Holland plus several 1sts for Trey Murphy?