Red Wings Playoff Tracker 2026

[slothfacekilla]

When you lack skilled players I don't think the answer is trading one of your most skilled players based on small sample sizes in hopes that down the line you get a player that is more elite than the one you have.  I understand the sentiment about being mad about the current roster's results but it feels like you're just cutting your nose off to spite your face if that's the route you go to fix it.  I understand I'm in the minority here and probably should have just kept my feelings to myself.  I should probably just take a break overall lol.

[1984Echoes]

22 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The only way I'm trading Raymond is if I'm bringing in a new GM and ...

2 hours ago, buddha said:

raymond is young, on a great contract, and ... you could get a king's ransom for him...

 

The only way I would trade Raymond is if another team overvalued him and did indeed, offer a king's ransom for him.

I wouldn't worry about a new GM Tater, I would only worry about how do we fix this current semblance of an NHL team? That's Stevie's job... and patience is starting to wear thin, dangerously... everywhere.

So...

Let's say the Flyers wildly overvalue him and wanted his skillset on their team...

So they offer: Two 1st rounders, Porter Martone (a Tkachuk look-alike prospect), and Tyson Foerster.

Yzerman can't turn that deal down.

He's not going to get that offer...

But the point remains: He can't afford to NOT turn over every stone searching for ways to get this team bigger, stronger, more playoff-capable than where we are right now.

Maybe that even includes a trade of Lucas Raymond... Or Larkin...?

I'm keeping Mo-Edvinsson as the foundation of the Wings future... and looking to upgrade our forward group, in any way possible.

Just my 2 cents.

[MichiganCardinal]

52 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

tanking for a top pick in the draft.

If it were this easy, the Wings could have Brady Tkachuk or Andrei Svechnikov instead of Filip Zadina... Or Lafreniere instead of Raymond, if you would make that trade in 2020.

I'm as tired of making excuses for Yzerman as the next guy, but it's not like effectively tanking from 2019 to 2023 did us any favors. The NHL isn't designed for bad teams to get good again without a combination of luck and skill. Say what you will on the skill front, but there's been absolutely no luck.

[gehringer_2]

the bottom line is a trade only helps if your GM actually makes you better in the trade. That means that if he gets back picks, he has to be able to hit on those picks, if gets back players, he has to somehow get more valuable players back than he sends out. Right now how much confidence do we have that Yzerman would be that GM in either circumstance? 

There is just no free lunch, there is only one route to your team improving, and that is for your management team to outperform other management teams in scouting, drafting, trading, development. Absent that, all the moves for the sake of moves are just deck chairs on the Titanic - or waiting around for lightning to strike your lottery luck.

Edited 3 hours ago by gehringer_2

[Jason_R]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

There is just no free lunch…

True. The wings were so good for so long because they had an edge in European scouting, they had an edge with an owner, willing to spendin free agency, and they had the appeal of being a dynasty with several Hall of Fame caliber players. But Holland whiffed on so many draft picks and left so much talent on the draft board that they are rebuilding the roster almost from scratch. 

If it were me, the only untradable player would be Seider. But I don’t see any advantage in trading Raymond unless he was part of a package to get a top 10 scorer. The wings do not need any more prospects, they need players that are proven to score at five on five. But everybody else wants those players too.

[Jason_R]

2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

There is just no free lunch…

True. The wings were so good for so long because they had an edge in European scouting, they had an edge with an owner, willing to spendin free agency, and they had the appeal of being a dynasty with several Hall of Fame caliber players. But Holland whiffed on so many draft picks and left so much talent on the draft board that they are rebuilding the roster almost from scratch. 

If it were me, the only untradable player would be Seider. But I don’t see any advantage in trading Raymond unless he was part of a package to get a top 10 scorer. The wings do not need any more prospects, they need players that are proven to score at five on five. But everybody else wants those players too.