05/16/2026 1:10p EDT Toronto Blue Jays at Detroit Tigers

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Holton just isn’t him anymore

the breakers aren't breaking enough and the fast ones aren't fast enough.

[monkeytargets39]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

the breakers aren't breaking enough and the fast ones aren't fast enough.

He used to pound the strike zone too—now his control isn’t there

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

He used to pound the strike zone too—now his control isn’t there

He's not down too much on average FB but his peak fastball is down 2-3 mph. Sometimes that's why a guy tries to stay away from the plate more.

[gehringer_2]

really irritating when they waste good pitching like this.

Edited 1 hour ago by gehringer_2

[monkeytargets39]

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

[casimir]

Phooey.

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

We need to tell him not to try to make any plays on defense. Don't come off the mound for a pop-up, let the other guys manage getting a ball to 1st. Just pitch and then stand still.

[Tiger337]

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball.  I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.    

Edited 1 hour ago by Tiger337

[tiger2022]

17 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

He's looking good for free agency.  If he keeps this up he will get a nice contract from a contender for next season.

[Sports_Freak]

18 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball.  I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.    

The results matter. So whether your opinion is you like it or don't like it, the results go into the record books as a loss. So in that regard, it's not "fake."

[chasfh]

Well, that's disappointing.

We are now 20-26 with a pythag of 22-24, and not an over-.500 pythag mainly as a result of handing our asses to the Mets.

[monkeytargets39]

55 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

We need to tell him not to try to make any plays on defense. Don't come off the mound for a pop-up, let the other guys manage getting a ball to 1st. Just pitch and then stand still.

Letting Torkelson field pop ups sounds like a bad idea though