05/16/2026 1:10p EDT Toronto Blue Jays at Detroit Tigers

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Holton just isn’t him anymore

the breakers aren't breaking enough and the fast ones aren't fast enough.

[monkeytargets39]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

the breakers aren't breaking enough and the fast ones aren't fast enough.

He used to pound the strike zone too—now his control isn’t there

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

He used to pound the strike zone too—now his control isn’t there

He's not down too much on average FB but his peak fastball is down 2-3 mph. Sometimes that's why a guy tries to stay away from the plate more.

[gehringer_2]

really irritating when they waste good pitching like this.

Edited 2 hours ago by gehringer_2

[monkeytargets39]

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

[casimir]

Phooey.

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

We need to tell him not to try to make any plays on defense. Don't come off the mound for a pop-up, let the other guys manage getting a ball to 1st. Just pitch and then stand still.

[Tiger337]

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball.  I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.    

Edited 2 hours ago by Tiger337

[tiger2022]

17 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

He's looking good for free agency.  If he keeps this up he will get a nice contract from a contender for next season.

[Sports_Freak]

18 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball.  I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.    

The results matter. So whether your opinion is you like it or don't like it, the results go into the record books as a loss. So in that regard, it's not "fake."

[chasfh]

Well, that's disappointing.

We are now 20-26 with a pythag of 22-24, and not an over-.500 pythag mainly as a result of handing our asses to the Mets.

[monkeytargets39]

55 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

We need to tell him not to try to make any plays on defense. Don't come off the mound for a pop-up, let the other guys manage getting a ball to 1st. Just pitch and then stand still.

Letting Torkelson field pop ups sounds like a bad idea though

[IdahoBert]

All these guys had to do was score 2 runs in the first full 8 innings. They struck out 14 times! And granted, that two of those came in the bottom of the ninth and the bottom of the 10th that wouldn’t have been played if they had scored two runs in the first full eight innings, but it’s still too common an event. 

And the Blue Jays struck out only six times in 10 innings. Making contact makes a difference.