05/16/2026 1:10p EDT Toronto Blue Jays at Detroit Tigers

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Holton just isn’t him anymore

the breakers aren't breaking enough and the fast ones aren't fast enough.

[monkeytargets39]

1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

the breakers aren't breaking enough and the fast ones aren't fast enough.

He used to pound the strike zone too—now his control isn’t there

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

He used to pound the strike zone too—now his control isn’t there

He's not down too much on average FB but his peak fastball is down 2-3 mph. Sometimes that's why a guy tries to stay away from the plate more.

[gehringer_2]

really irritating when they waste good pitching like this.

Edited 3 hours ago by gehringer_2

[monkeytargets39]

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

[casimir]

Phooey.

[gehringer_2]

Just now, monkeytargets39 said:

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

We need to tell him not to try to make any plays on defense. Don't come off the mound for a pop-up, let the other guys manage getting a ball to 1st. Just pitch and then stand still.

[Tiger337]

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball.  I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.    

Edited 3 hours ago by Tiger337

[tiger2022]

17 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

Well on the plus side, Casey looked great.  

He's looking good for free agency.  If he keeps this up he will get a nice contract from a contender for next season.

[Sports_Freak]

18 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Extra innng losses don't feel as bad because it's fake baseball.  I did watch it this time...mostly because I wanted to see McGonigle and Dingler bat.    

The results matter. So whether your opinion is you like it or don't like it, the results go into the record books as a loss. So in that regard, it's not "fake."

[chasfh]

Well, that's disappointing.

We are now 20-26 with a pythag of 22-24, and not an over-.500 pythag mainly as a result of handing our asses to the Mets.

[monkeytargets39]

55 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

We need to tell him not to try to make any plays on defense. Don't come off the mound for a pop-up, let the other guys manage getting a ball to 1st. Just pitch and then stand still.

Letting Torkelson field pop ups sounds like a bad idea though

[IdahoBert]

All these guys had to do was score 2 runs in the first full 8 innings. They struck out 14 times! And granted, that two of those came in the bottom of the ninth and the bottom of the 10th that wouldn’t have been played if they had scored two runs in the first full eight innings, but it’s still too common an event. 

And the Blue Jays struck out only six times in 10 innings. Making contact makes a difference.

[chasfh]

41 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

All these guys had to do was score 2 runs in the first full 8 innings. They struck out 14 times! And granted, that two of those came in the bottom of the ninth and the bottom of the 10th that wouldn’t have been played if they had scored two runs in the first full eight innings, but it’s still too common an event. 

And the Blue Jays struck out only six times in 10 innings. Making contact makes a difference.

Since I was wondering whether our offense is maddeningly inconsistent, which I think every fan believes about their own team, I plugged the game by game hitting stats of every team through yesterday into an AI assistant and asked it to rank the 30 teams by most consistent to least consistent offense.

Here's what it spit back out.

For what's it's worth, of course.

*****

Here's the full ranking, most to least consistent through May 15 (weeks 1-7, complete games only). The consistency score is the average coefficient of variation of runs per game and OPS — lower means more day-to-day predictability.

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Most Consistent (1–10)

1. Tampa Bay Rays — The most consistent offense in baseball despite being a middling team (4.54 R/G). Low run variance (std 2.49), low OPS volatility. They don't explode often (22% of games 7+ runs) but they also almost never completely die (12% at 0-1 runs). Quiet, steady, reliable.

2. St. Louis Cardinals — Nearly identical profile to Tampa Bay. 4.68 R/G, low variance, 9.8% goose egg rate — lowest in the majors. They're not flashy but they show up every night.

3. Texas Rangers — Consistently mediocre is still consistent. Third-best CV on runs despite a weak 3.71 R/G average. They don't beat you but they also don't completely embarrass themselves. Low floor, low ceiling.

4–5. Atlanta Braves / Chicago Cubs — Both are good offensive teams (5.55 and 5.28 R/G) that also happen to be consistent. The Cubs have an impressive 42.5% rate of scoring 7+ runs — they're consistent and dangerous.

6. Baltimore Orioles — Interesting case: 7.3% goose egg rate (2nd lowest in baseball) despite only a 4.17 R/G average. They almost never go completely quiet.

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The Middle (11–20)

Washington, San Diego, New York Yankees, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Houston, Oakland, Cincinnati, Seattle, Kansas City cluster in the 0.506–0.535 range — solidly average consistency. The Yankees stand out here: 5.19 R/G is elite production, but a 35.9% OPS CV means they swing between dominant and dormant. High-variance good team.

Detroit sits at 8th — a consistency score of 0.480, roughly top quarter of the league. Their 4.21 R/G average is pedestrian, but they hold their floor reasonably well (14.3% goose eggs) without many blowout games (16.7% at 7+). They grind.

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Least Consistent (21–30)

27. Boston Red Sox — 26.8% of games scoring 0-1 runs, worst run CV (0.876) of any team not in the bottom five. Genuinely Jekyll-and-Hyde offense. Their 3.83 R/G masks huge swings.

28. Colorado Rockies — 25% goose egg rate, 0.808 run CV. Playing at altitude masks how unpredictable they are.

29. New York Mets — 25.6% goose eggs, 3.79 R/G, 0.840 run CV. Consistent only in their inconsistency, and consistently bad on top of it.

30. San Francisco Giants — The least consistent offense in baseball. 32.5% goose egg rate — nearly one in three games they score one run or fewer. A 0.403 OPS CV means they also have some big games, but the floor is the lowest in the league. 3.45 R/G is the worst in baseball through this stretch.

 

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

The results matter. So whether your opinion is you like it or don't like it, the results go into the record books as a loss. So in that regard, it's not "fake."

It's fake because putting base runners on base for free is not baseball.  I know it counts the same in the standings which sucks, but when I am sitting there watching a game and I see a base runner on base, it is no longer a baseball game for me.  

Edited 45 minutes ago by Tiger337

[tiger2022]

Its all about getting the games over quicker.  Maybe play an extra inning and call it a tie?

You could have a new pitcher stat, ties if you were the guy in the 10th inning.