05/24/2026 6:05p EDT Detroit Tigers at Baltimore Orioles

[Tiger337]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

But he's delivering lately, yesterday excepted. So we'll see which guy shows up more going forward.

Except yesterday and the other three games he blew.  On the whole this year, he really hasn't been good.  Vest or Finnegan could do the same thing, maybe better.  Some of the others probably could too.  I hope he stops giving up walks and home runs going forward

Edited 13 hours ago by Tiger337

[chasfh]

20 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Except yesterday and the other three games he blew.  On the whole this year, he really hasn't been good.  Vest or Finnegan could do the same thing, maybe better.  Some of the others probably could too.  I hope he stops giving up walks and home runs going forward

Just hypothetically, if a relief pitcher has a 10 ERA in his first six innings and games, then has a 0 ERA in his next six innings and games, he has a 5 ERA in 12 innings/games and his numbers are terrible. But that's potentially meaningfully different than if he had 0 ERA first and 10 ERA after, in terms of what it means going forward. But you'd be justified to conclude that a 5 ERA in 12 games mean he's bad.

Edited 13 hours ago by chasfh

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Just hypothetically, if a relief has a 10 ERA in his first six innings and games, then has a 0 ERA in his next six innings and games, he has a 5 ERA in 12 innings/games and his numbers are terrible. But that's potentially meaningfully different than if he had 0 ERA first and 10 ERA after.

I don't understand your point or what it has to do with Jansen.  Jansen has spread out his bad games evenly over the course of the season so far.  He didn't start out terrible and then start doing better.  He blew one game early, then had some good ganes, then blew two more, then had some good ones and then blew another one.  

[Tenacious D]

Given his propensity for giving up dingers (this season), he probably shouldn’t close on the road. At least at home, we have a chance to get the runs back.  Give Vest the road save opps.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't understand your point or what it has to do with Jansen.  Jansen has spread out his bad games evenly over the course of the season so far.  He didn't start out terrible and then start doing better.  He blew one game early, then had some good ganes, then blew two more, then had some good ones and then blew another one.  

Sample sizes for relievers suck. That said, his walk rate is too high, but his WHIP is still in the ballpark of his career norm because he's giving up fewer hits along with the walks -- so that's a little contradictory. His velo isn't down measurably. The most optimistic reading is the HRs were just bad luck and skew his other numbers and the rest is just SSS noise. The less optimistic reading is the walks are the leading indicator of a degrading arm. Like Chasfh said - we are going to find out one way or the other.