Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, mtutiger said:

It's not unique to the Times, but the tendency of American outlets to frame Trump attacking the Pope as a "feud" is a way to "both sides" a conflict that really has only one side to it. Which comes across as bringing Leo down to Trump's level (he's not) and making the conflict seem like it's mutual (it isn't)

I think is is accurate. The problem for the Times is that they are no-doubt a militantly secular culture (other than Op-Ed writers Douthat and French) and so I doubt most Times journalists take the Papacy and the RCC very seriously.

[mtutiger]

4 hours ago, chasfh said:

What is the problem you see in the article quoted in the meme that highlights your point? I'm missing it.

The screenshot clearly refers to this as a conflict (it's not a conflict if it's one sided IMO), and it refers to "these two people" as if the Pope has even really done more than just simply state the Catholic Church's view on just war policy multiple times.

Pretty much is a textbook example of my point.

[mtutiger]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

I think is is accurate. The problem for the Times is that they are no-doubt a militantly secular culture (other than Op-Ed writers Douthat and French) and so I doubt most Times journalists take the Papacy and the RCC very seriously.

Maybe it's that, but I think political media at large (not just the Times) has a very difficult time covering politics right now in a way that doesn't center literally everything on Trump.

What's remarkable to me is that nothing that Leo has said is all that different than what any previous Pope would have said had this same conflict began, at least of the ones in my lifetime.... but because Trump is involved (and started the conflict, frankly), anodyne but important statements from the Pope about this war are now seen as a some sort of personal fight between the two when it's simply the Catholic Church taking the position the Catholic Church would have always taken in this situation.