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But you gotta admit, the Twins gifting a rocking chair of broken bats to Mariano Rivera was pretty clever.

Didn’t ND use a timeout before those 2 plays?

Sure, Kim is on a reasonable deal. What if the Tigers take on Carpenter who has a player option next season? It’s only $5M or $6M, but he’s going to pick it up. The Tigers can give him spring training to do whatever and cut him. It might not be much to tack into a deal, but maybe it moves a needle somewhat. What if they take on a different somewhat onerous contract? Darvish’s contract goes a bit deep into his aging. But is he a pitcher that might age reasonably well? Or what about Musgrove? It’s a higher AAV although given the difference in age, he might be a better future value (caveat being I see he’s on the IL right now and I’m not sure why). I wouldn’t be adverse to moving from the top of the system. I’d be willing to float one of the lefty hitting IFs without a position in the right move. In theory from the seat of message board GM, sure, they could put Keith and Jung in some alignment of one at 2B and one at 3B. But both possibilities might not be ideal long term, particularly with Torkelson’s lack of range at 1B.

Meyer was one of the names that I saw.

I don’t think there’s much to gain from free agency, except for another Lorenzen type of move. I do think there’s opportunity to bring salary in from a team heavy on salary that might not cost the Tigers much in terms of prospect capital. I don’t know that Soto is the guy. But I’d like to bring in Kim for 2B or 3B. Put him at the top of the lineup. What would it take?

At least I got the game time right today.

It'd be a good life lesson to prepare for next season's World Series.

That was ridiculous and deserving of scorn. And then after the game, meatball football coach blather session about toughness and nobody believed it and everybody questioned it..... Hey, dummy, you called a play that didn't use said toughness. So shut up!

Somebody else in the rivalry gets it. You know, some of you people could learn a lot from buddha. It wouldn't be all good, but you'd still be learning a lot.

Eat it, Notre Dame. But why the hate for the Bobcats?

No, I didn't interpret that from you. The LaRussa thing (3 Ps going 3 IP each) was a bit of an extreme on the theory.

I read a little bit on it yesterday. A combination of too many OF/DH types and Horton's aging legs. The trade to Texas was a bit awkward on that side as well. The owner wanted him, but it sounds like the field management didn't.

Yes. I suck.

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I think we might be talking about different “final” games. I was referring to the final game at Tiger Stadium in 1999 when former Tigers took to the field after the game against the Royals. I remember Willie taking his spot in LF, trying unsuccessfully to hold back his tears. I don’t know too much about his trade out of Detroit. I wasn’t even in grade school yet, so none of it would have made any sense to me at the time. I never realized it before, but I see he played one game for the Tigers in 1977. I think this might be the game that are speaking of?

Robin Ventura disagreed with him once. Everyone else just wisely let him be.

Thanks. I forgot about his Oakland stint. Knowing his background and the story of Detroit’s social issues, and having a spot in my fan heart for one team careers, it sucks to know that he was traded away. And I know it had to tear him to pieces when it happened. Seeing him trot out to LF for the last game at Tiger Stadium…., man, if that didn’t hit you in the heart for him, I just don’t know what to say.

Ryan was also used as a RP a bit in his earlier years. I’d like to know what his pitch counts were then. Without diving deeply, I think he had a higher BB9 throughout his career. It was definitely higher in his earlier seasons.

LaRussa tried this for a short time in Oakland. Cycling through the pitching staff with guys throwing 3 innings a piece, and having a closer and maybe a set up or long man at his disposal if needed. It didn’t last very long at all, maybe a few weeks. The game has certainly changed since then, but is there anything to take from that experiment to today’s game? Having a bullpen of multi inning abilities doesn’t mean they have to go multiple innings in each appearance. But it just opens up the options on a day to day basis. That’s kind of why I’m intrigued about a bullpen with Faedo, Holton, Brieske, etc. They seem to be able to put together stints that they could go through the lineup once pretty effectively. And I’m not a fan of reliever roulette. I think (although I could be wrong) that bridging the 6th through 9th with fewer arms would eliminate that. Sure, one of those guys could go kaploohey on any given night, but you just bring someone else in at that time.

So, essentially the Tigers (and anyone else in the division) kind of have a leg up on other teams in MLB because, if a team in the ALC can put together an upper 80s win season, they’ve essentially won the division. To Lee’s point, there’s no reason they can’t build the farm and compete for the division right now. Baez’ contract is the only onerous one right now, and it really isn’t one that’s going to break them. They seem to have a way of putting together pitching out of whatever’s available. Leverage that, address the lineup, put a winner out on the field. This fan base is just itching for a competitive team. The region is probably going to go bonkers over the next playoff team.

84 was better. They won the World Series.

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It’s probably regifted.

I don't assume that either one of Keith or Malloy make the Opening Day roster. They might, I don't know. I don't assume what we might see this offseason. I think with Harris having been in charge for a season and having a better understanding of the organization, and also the players having another season under their belt, these are different variables than last offseason. So how will Harris build from that?

Ah, I didn't realize that, thanks. Interestingly his (poor) OBP is pretty much the same vs LHPs and RHPs. Its his SLG% that really shoots up vs LHPs. I'm still not certain he is retained. He's not the "dominate the strike zone" hitter that has been mentioned. But at the same time, which RHH bench IF at Detroit/Toledo is that has performed to Ibanez' level?