1984Echoes

No, not at all. It's called "recency bias". Whatever heavy baggage Clinton carries around is old enough for it to be pretty foggy in most memories. Or to not even register at all. Trump's crimes against Democracy, the Constitution, humanity, and women, are FRESH is everyone's minds. In fact, it's the ONLY thing that matters. Not to be rude but... I could give a FLYING **** about Clinton's sordid history. I JUST DON'T CARE. I don't know if that answers your question properly... you seem to be extremely sensitive over Clinton's sordid history... so, not to repeat myself but: I JUST DON'T CARE.

You can be as upset as you want to be... But there are millions and millions of Democrats who absolutely love Bill Clinton. So yes... your BC3 get dismissed... whether that is defensible or indefensible... it's reality. Smart play to put Clinton out there, at least a little, to generate that Dem enthusiasm.

Can we get some insurance runs please?

That's what it is seriously looking like. Everyone's going to be looking at exit strategy. And then they'll all star on their next team... For whatever reason. Monty's fault? Or 100% Weaver?

Sounds about right.

I think he made several defensive mistakes IIRC... so Lalonde stuck him back on the bench. Middling offense and multi-defensive mistakes is not a recipe to be re-signed methinks. Shinzaki may be right... back to Sweden is probably looking enticing to someone Berggren's age unable to break into/ stick in the NHL... Unless he can find a pathway somewhere else... with another NHL team. But I don't think his future is in Detroit.

Don't they view him as a multi-inning reliever? So yes... keep him stretched out for as long as possible. I mean, last year, not... regardless of minors or majors. But in 2022 exclusively as a starter... So... I don't know? Just a guess? I may be wrong on that...

The other thing is: Flores is probably on the same track as Madden... Eventually headed for the bullpen. But he had a couple nastier pitches than Madden (at least in 2022); and is on a faster track than Madden... for the bullpen. So he's in the rotation in Toledo, developing at the higher level and facing more advanced hitters. IIRC, he's limited in the number of effective pitches that he has... like... two. So it makes sense for him to be one step away from Detroit. As you say... Madden is still developing pitches and I think is more capable of developing secondary pitches, than Flores. So I guess that's why he's in Erie? Even if he also ends up in the bullpen (most likely scenario), he has more projection than Flores and needs more development time to see if he can figure that out. But... I'm just guessing.

But then who of Manning, Brieske, Flores, Hurter or Montero will NOT be the 5th starter, specifically because they were replaced by one of the 3 guys you mentioned? Because I don't see that. I think your 3 guys are the 6th, or tandem starter, or follow-on 2-3 innings reliever. Not in the rotation 1-5 pushing out one of the guys I've listed.

There's no shoveling whatsoever. Nothing I said was incorrect. You're just taking the easy way out by dumping on me.

I already stated that he most likely will end up in the bullpen, did you miss that? Also, I stated the correct reasons he would be in Erie's rotation, FOR NOW. And you didn't answer my question: Is he in Erie's bullpen? Or rotation?

BTW: Didn't you tell me two years ago that the prospects currently in our system are NO DIFFERENT than the prospects in our system in any other year? So our Detroit team right now consists of Munson, Anderson and Scott Sizemore, right? Because these guys are NO DIFFERENT than any other year, correct? Per your scouting acumen, as you so nobly pointed out, just above.

Awesome. I worship at your feet. Thank you for informing me of my duty to do so. But until he's actually in the bullpen... He's in Erie's rotation, isn't he?

Mark, has the Org stated SPECIFICALLY that they intend Madden to be in the bullpen? Because otherwise, it sounds like pure speculation on your part. And I see zero basis in reality for that speculation.

I'm assuming Manning-Brieske-Hurter-Flores-Montero are the Toledo rotation... So: (A) The Org likes all these guys. As starters. That's why Madden is in Erie. (B) Sammons has absolutely ZERO to do with anything. (C) Despite Marks opine on Madden ending up in the bullpen: He'll be in the Erie rotation this year. And he may well end up in the bullpen. But he's in Erie's rotation because (1) they'll keep him in a rotation for as long as possible until there's no choice but to put him in the bullpen, and that is NOT in the minors (for the foreseeable future), that will be in Detroit if/when he gets there. (2) Failed starters stay in rotations for as long as possible ALSO to develop their pitches as much as they can. Really hard to do that in the bullpen because that's where a pitcher usually simplifies to a top-two pitches, and innings are drastically lower than in the rotation.

Why do you want Ty Madden to replace Bryan Sammons in the Toledo bullpen?

Can they squeeze in both?

Aside from Edvinsson, Tuomisto is 6'5". Wallinder is 6'4". Both have been playing, at least in GR, defensively responsible.

Lyon lays flat down on his back on a loose puck, stopping play. Still 0-0. If this game isn't "the season"... it's damn close to it.

Ditto.

If we fall too far out of playoff range he can play 5-ish or so games this year. IMO.

Just like Faedo.

They bought that land fair and square?

I'm buying puts on "DJT" as well... As many as I can...

BINGO!!! Excellent post. And history lesson for those not in the know...