Hongbit

The stats show you what it actually is. Stuff metrics, pitch shape, etc. show you what it can be. Nobody can tell you exactly what it will be.

That ridiculous. Kikuchi had a great April, solid May, and a total horror show June and July. He’s got a 6 25 ERA in his last 11 starts. 65 hits and 39 ER in 54 IP. 2+ months of 💩 Flaherty last 12 starts is 2.43 ERA and 51 hits and 19 ER in 70.2 IP. The numbers aren’t even in the same atmosphere.

Team wants to make a change and the league says it’s not good for storyline and ticket sales. This has always been part of F1. Motorsport with a small piece of Professional Wrestling mixed in.

I blame Ohio.

Hopefully this means Ty Madden and Lael Lockhart getting extended looks.

Much better player only slightly better package. Im not saying it’s a fleece. It’s not. He didn’t come anywhere close to getting max value.

Still, Flaherty is a much better player now than Kikuchi. Even if you like the Flaherty return better, it would only be a very slight upgrade than the Kikuchi deal. They are very similar packages.

Harris needs to get credit for taking a free agent flyer on Flaherty and turning it into a fantastic first half performance along with a top 75 overall prospect and a young and hopefully better McKinstry. At the same time, he left too much meat on the bone in the trade. Toronto and Florida both got better packages for less of a player. They needed to do a better job negotiating a better deal.

I wonder if Ohtani is in the deal?

Flaherty to Dodgers

He’s got to get Flaherty traded and there are teams that need to add a top rotation pitcher. Come on Scott, don’t be a little bitch.

Looks like Padres are out on deals. They traded 3 of their top 5 prospects for Tanner Scott. I can’t see them trading the catcher Salas but who knows

Watch us all freak out about no activity and then have them sneak in something huge right before the deadline. Shoot, even a Skubal deal could still happen.

EDIT - Apparently not trade related

Don’t stress out yet. Boston or LA haven’t done anything so far and you know they will.

Savage

I would deem it a total failure because there are deals out there to be had. I want more for Flaherty but I’d take deal like the Jays got for Kikuchi more than a draft pick.

Mize doesn’t play SP. He plays IL.

Not trading Flaherty is acceptable if they choose to sign him to an extension. Not trading him and letting him leave for only a future draft pick would be a total failure (but that’s not happening. He’s getting moved).

I hate to thread police but come on @Sports_Freak and @chasfh Why do we have to do yet another Erod rehash today of all days!! Lots of people are coming here for updates and meaningful thoughts on things that matter today. if you insist on battling this out then at least take it back to last years trade deadline thread instead of getting everyone bogged down in this bs.

This day has set up perfectly for Scott Harris. Crochet’s contract demand has made Skubal and Flaherty the top 2 pitchers available in a crazy sellers market. There aren’t enough arms available for teams that desperately need them. I think he is going to get a crazy haul for Jack. The last 2 hours before the deadline are going to bring some stupid offers for Skubal as teams get desperate. I am changing my tune from last week and now my gut is that he’s going to trade Skubal and it’s going to be a great return for the Tigers.

Effective trolling is sporadic and subtle. You are trying way too hard.

He’s a tremendous check casher. He can challenge Javy and Tork in this area.