Nate7474

Don’t tell him that we already see enough bad screen plays.

I'm just catching up but it looks like Minn is just throwing a gap blitzes and stacking close to the line of scrimmage. Goff and the offensive line are having a hard time figuring out protections.

I’d offer QO to Flaherty and Torres and try to resign Finnegan as well from last year’s team. I’m probably trading some players like Ibanez, Malloy and Jung even if it’s not for much just to clear space. As far as additions I’d like to bring in a 1 year SP and a lefty bullpen arm. The big acquisition I’m making is probably Bichette for 7-8 years near 200 million to play SS and 3B over his career here. The big question is Skubal and I’d probably trade him if you get the right offer but then you need another SP. I’d love to watch him another season but I don’t see anyway that he resigns here and to only get a draft pick back and still need to replace him would be tough.

Obviously Holmes has a great eye for talent but I do think there’s more to it when getting players to the Probowl. How many years did the Lions have top picks and very few probowlers. It seems to me that successful teams that bring in new players thru the draft have an easier time of developing players then the teams that might bring in more athletically gifted players to bad situations. The key is really developing an entire culture of winning and forcing players to get on board or move from the teams expectations. People talk about the parity of winning in the NFL but to me it seems like there’s a group of 7-10 organizations that are always drafting lower and always winning for decades it seems. Are the Lions going to become one of those? Who knows and the next few years are going to be very telling for that as our players get more expensive/less effective and need to be replaced. What Holmes and his staff along with Campbell have done in such a short time is truly remarkable. I look forward to seeing how they go about maintaining this momentum.

Ha! I’m still not even sure what he challenged.

He literally didn’t but that’s ok it doesn’t change my original opinion that a lot of his challenges are blatant that he is going to lose. Now I may watch more of him then other coaches giving me a recently bias because when looking up the stats on it since he’s been a head coach he is right at league average.

Actually he lost that challenge as well as he challenged if it was a catch. The nfl then did a spot review and gave the Lions back their timeout and challenge and that was called correctly on the field they wouldn’t have needed to challenge.

Whoever he trusts he needs a new one. He’s got to be the worst head coach at challenges since he became a coach.

Goff struggled against Bowles defense. Doesn’t see blitzes at all. Carbon copy to last year.

I see what you did there……..

Great job of blocking there by the whole offense on that run.

Honestly I would, but if you read his takes outside of the in game thread he does alright and knows the game. Just when the emotions go hot the bad takes start up.

I love how you state another penalty on them Lions but blame it on Morton. You just can’t help yourself but to blame the coaches. Blame a player just once without blaming a coach.

Give TB some credit here. They are a very good team as well and are making some plays.

Actually I disagree with you here, teams who kick FG in this league lose. You have to score TDs.

Fine with going for it as you have to assume your defense is going to let up a decent amount of points in this game and it’s who the Lions are. However, the decision to throw it deep to a rookie WR by Goff leaves a little bit to be desired.

Valid point, but we didn’t win either game he pitched in Seattle and the other games we held up fine. Other teams that are still playing also don’t have Skubal and they’re still going. At least to my eyes we lost because we couldn’t hit well enough. I don’t want the majority of our resources on pitching and would prefer them in hitting and defense. Signing him affects our ability to resign our hitters or find new ones.

Economically is what puts me square in the trade him this offseason. If the resource I looked at is correct we have 143 million in payroll and let’s say over the next couple years with a contender Illitch is willing to take that up to 200-225. Do you want one pitcher taking up 1/5 or 1/6 of your entire budget. A pitcher that when they have injuries, not if often miss the rest of that year and sometimes more. Also when healthy although dominate over the last two years only affected 31 games each season. So pure math he plays in 19.1% of games over the last 2 year and would take up 1/6th of your payroll. I think it will be easier and cheaper to find those wins elsewhere specifically for long term organizational health. If they keep them for next season they will still need to offer him something competitive to show face to the fans but my guess is they would be hoping privately that he signs elsewhere.

Does any one have a good resource for tracking who needs to be added to the 40 this year to protect from rule 5? I thought there use to be a good resource that was shared here. Just off the top of my head it seems there might be some hard choices this year. I have to imagine we are going to see a few minor trades this offseason to try and keep from losing players for free.

I’d argue that using actual results is the only way to judge the trades. Why would certain players perform better or worse for us just because of a different team? I think it more guesswork to just assume that would’ve performed the same as they were. To me judging on actual results I would say Harris did ok, not great. He alluded to this is his press conference that the starting pitchers acquired were to get us to the playoffs and they did. They weren’t suppose to pitch innings in the playoffs and they didn’t and we didn’t need them to as pitching was not the issue. He also stated as vague as possible what was the ask for Suarez and I agree with him in not paying it. We didn’t lose in the playoffs because of trades not made. We lost in the playoffs because the players who were hitting at the time of the trade deadline forgot how to have productive at bats at the end of the year.

I'm not sure this shows what you are trying to show at least to me. Suarez was not good in Seattle. Montero was better then Helsey and arguably Finnegan was at least equal to Bednar. Kelly was better then Morton and yet was still negative WAR for his new team. I would say this argument should state how good of decisions Harris did make by not giving up anything.

Looking at the Corbin Burnes trade with one year remaining I’m not sure you get anywhere near that return unless Skubal is willing to sign an extension. I don’t think he and his agent will allow for that and want to go thru free agency.

I’ll be honest it’s not the first time that Branch has been ridiculous at controlling his emotions. I would not be surprised if he was the one star we have that we let walk or trade of the group that will be getting big raises soon. Great football player but 2 cent brain sometimes and you just knew it was him that started that.

A couple bounces earlier in the game go our way and it could’ve been a much different score. Mahomes fumble that bounces right back to him and weak pass interference call along with not catching a 4th down conversion. With that said the lions defense allowed to many extra yards on tackles that allowed the Chiefs to have short 3rd down plays which we stopped but then easy 4th down conversions to extend drives killed them early.

Best 2 teams we have played on the schedule so far both losses. The only good win is Baltimore and that one no longer looks good. This team so far is not as good as last year. I don't mind the losses as I kind of expected 2 losses on the year at this point but its more about how we got outplayed in both of them. Plenty of time to correct mistakes and get healthy again but this turns my concerned level up a notch on if we can compete for a super bowl this year.