Nate7474

Honestly I was thinking it during the preseason but gave the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt. However in light of this game I firmly believe it was a dumb mistake to not have the 3 IOL playing in the preseason. Other places as well but this one really sticks out. I know they talk about how with the joint practices they can get good looks while lowering the risk of injury but I just don’t agree. They looked average/bad the first couple weeks last season as well. Also how did Miami and Houston look this week. Did we really get that good of quality practices in?

Sure that’s is always a factor. The first picture all 4 receivers are on the same level. Not typically a good concept if you are trying to stress a defense. 2nd picture it’s hard to tell it looks like 3 are bunch together so could have been a wrong route or also timing of the play not allowing for separation yet that just hasn’t happened yet in the route pattern. I believe that Greenbay had a great game plan of stopping the run and making Goff go to his check down quickly causing the short throws and they executed it by tackling well.

Don’t forget that we didn’t execute the all important two for one to end and start the half.

A loss is a loss. With a team as talented as the Lions should be, how bad they look and the score doesn’t really matter to me. The stars didn’t forget how to play football they will get it fixed just a matter of how quickly.

Ok you’ve lost me here. This is not a bad team. Do they need to improve and improve quickly, absolutely. Is losing to a highly likely playoff team on the road in game one mean it’s over, absolutely not.

I’ll point out some of what I mean and it could be that I got worn out watching Michigan do the same. I saw very little attacking the middle routes or deep. Lots of sideline to sideline plays not allowing our speed to have much of an impact. Even in the run game I saw mostly attacking between the tackles and rarely running outside.

I will say that normally I think TP has idiotic takes and there are still some of those happening. However at least offensively I’ve seen a pretty poorly called and executed game. So I will agree with him today that these coaches today did not have this team prepared and ready.

I agree. From what I e seen Glasgow has been terrible.

Looks like no one played in the preseason which of course they didn't. They will get there legs underneath them but will it be in enough time?

That’s true. I still think McKinstry should have over ruled and taken that ball. That is just a terrible pairing on the left side.

Shelled? a bunch of ground ball singles hit where the fielders aren't? I would call that borderline bad luck.

It would be nice to bring Torres back but he’s earned a long term sizable contract with his play this year. I don’t think the Tigers will meet that price. I see 2nd next year as Lee/Jung/McKinstry/Ibanez. Then potentially McGonigle working into there or SS before then end of the year and even possible from the start. That’s why I think Jung is a trade candidate.

Oh I agree but even if he falls back to last year that’s still a productive player that plays pretty decent defense and that still outperforms Jung from what we’ve seen so far. I’m just. It seeing a spot for Jung in this team right now.

Jung is trade bait or a bench bat if he can figure it out at the MLB level. He’ll also need to make himself more valuable defensively by playing multiple positions. If he can play 2nd, 3rd and 1B then that’s an ok bench piece if he hits. If I had to guess I really don’t see his long term fit with the tigers. I like Lee better from the right side than Jung currently for that role from the left as we already have Keith, McKinstry and McGonigle hitting lefty.

Agreed. I would go a bit further and not expect him until at the earliest end of next season. That can change but so for the front office seems to like mid season promotions and then start the next season at that location as well. So that same trajectory would put him Toledo/Detroit in the second half of the 26 season. That goes for Clark as well.

At least right now it looks like Liranzo is sticking behind the plate. That would be my guess on why he’s rated higher.

I don't think Skubal and Boras would be the one saying no to that contract. Tigers I dont think have any plans of offering that size of contract. They might be willing to go to 40 mil a year or even slightly higher then that but I think it shortens the length of the contract. This reason is ultimately why I think if healthy thru the rest of this year and next that Skubal walks. I wouldn't blame either party if he did, it's just business.

I think the bad management comes from what stage of competing you are in. If you are playoff bound but smaller market then it makes sense to keep them as long as possible then let them walk to try and win it all. if you are not competitive then it’s probably malpractice to let them walk and not trade for additional assets.

I appreciate your effort and so I will answer that, I like both the Phillies and Dodgers offer but would lean toward the Phillies. Now with that said neither would offer that much in return for only one year of Skubal. You aren't getting 2 top 50 or 3 top 100 prospects in my opinion. Maybe 2 top 100 with 1 being top 50 and then some high ceiling low level players that are further away is the best to hope for.

Man, I hate this Seattle team with how good they are playing right now in all areas.

I think we still have to give it some more time. Neither played any spring training and now trying to get ramped up against guys in midseason form. Both just needs at bats in my opinion but may need to see them pinch hit for late in games.

Who knows. I hope its more about setting up the starting rotation the way Hinch wants for the second half. But you cant blame Skubal for wanting to start an All Star game if that's the reason. It still normal rest for in between so I don't think you can blame that. Just and off night.

This should be Skubals last inning. just not the same pitcher at all tonight.

Honestly this is the worst game this year for his command. Missing on a lot of his pitches and really not even close.

I’ve looked at this a few times and the only solution is to cut some of the other older prospects getting passed by. I would anticipate the front office trying to find trade partners for some of the players for Bullpen and a 3/4/5 type SP at the deadline. After then maybe try a turn them into low minors high upside long shots and then make some cuts.