buddha

so are we going to pay duren now?

avila built the house he lived in. yzerman was handed the keys after kenny gutted the interior and stripped all the appliances.

one of the worst things about this site is when you have a big long post prepared, go to another tab to look at some data, and then come back to that stupid ad pop up that wipes out your whole post. suffice to say, half this board was clamoring for johnny gaudreau two years ago. and stamkos/marssasseault/elias lindholm this last year. how'd that work out? did you want chris tanev for SIX YEARS? did you want him to trade first round picks for 33 year olds this year? come on. now, there's plenty of legit criticism, but remember the context. they had one of the worst teams in nhl history with the worst farm system in the league in 2019. it takes a long time to overcome that. the teams that have done it have had lottery luck. toronto was awful. they drafted nylander (8), matthews (1) and marner (4) back to back to back. who did we get when we were bad? rasmussen (9), zadina (6), and seider (6). see the difference? yeah, this summer was ****. he owns that. but every other move was at least explainable. asp is coming and might even be here this year. danielson gets here next year. cossa the year after that or next year. in two years that is the foundation of the team. then chairot, holl, petry, copp, tarasenko, gustafsson, et al are all off the books. judge then. if its still bad, then he deserves to be fired.

then compare him to kenny holland, not al avila. plus there isnt much comparison to kenny either considering yzerman took over one of the worst teams in nhl history with one of the worst farm systems in the league. avila also took over one of the worst farm systems in thr league....that helped to create. sometimes you cant make an analogy work, its ok.

steve yzerman directed tampa bay to the stanley cup finals and built the foundation of a team that won multiple cups. comparing him to al avila is stupid.

2015: evgeniy schvechnikov, no second round pick 2016: dennis cholowski, givani smith, filip hronek 2017: michael rasmussen, gustav lindstrom 2018: filip zadina, joe veleno, jonatan berggren, and jared mcisaac. those drafts should be the foundation of this team. and all you got out of it was hronek (who was dealt in a good trade), and a third and fourth line wingers. that's pathetic. i wouldnt trade raymond or seider for all of those guys.

i cant wait for yzerman's #6 pick in the draft to ride the bench in the swiss league.

the only time i've rooted for draymond greene is when he punched jordan poole in the face. cant stand jordan poole.

joe veleno centering the 4th line with bertuzzi on the wing for the hawks tonight. just to let everyone know the talent level the wings accumulated during the late ken holland era.

welp.

haliburton is out and the bulls are routing the pacers. and luka was 8-25 in his first non-lebron game and the lakers lost to the nets. a nice present for nico, cause he needs one right now.

they've run into some bad shooting luck lately. that's why the beginning of this year just killed them. it took them being the hottest team in hockey for a month just to get back to average. that was never going to last. other than the third period in washington theyve outplayed their opponents in most of their recent games, they've just lost. be it bad goaltending by us or hot goaltending by the other guys, it hasnt worked out.

i'm not breaking the bank for Levi.

jarrett supppsedly signed with the bears.

maybe on a cheap deal, i'd be worried about the miles on him. i think the lions will get at least one dt and use some draft capital to get another. good draft for dline.

bears have really improved their interior oline. still not sure about their tackles, but they still have the #10 pick as well as carolina's second rounder.

i love stevie and i think he has done a good job building farm depth, but this summer was an absolute disaster.

matas is taller and longer. dont know if he ever puts on enough weight to be solid enough to play d. ron is solid enough, but i dont know what he's good at other than trying real hard. matas is more projectable and has a higher ceiling if he fills out. both their shots are broke right now. but we'll see. being a rookie on a bad team isnt always a good indicator of how good someone actually is.

a finesse winger not from sweden doesnt really sound like am yzerman type player.

bunch of old men on this thread talking about maladies. lol.

remember when scoot henderson was a cant miss prospect?

im beginning to think buzelis was a better pick than holland.

smith wasnt very good for detroit last year and is now a year older. i guess if they can get him for cheap it would be ok. like they did with davenport. but there are lots of other options out there who are younger and with more upside OR better veterans. they need depth up front considering mcneil is out for most of next season and levi is a free agent, so they might have to settle for smith on a small deal. i always felt the idea of hutch learning moves from old vets to be the most overrated, fan driven thing in the world. hutch has more moves now than smith or davenport have ever had.

cooper flagg...

not on that contract. wisely, the lions released him this morning. they can bring him back on a better deal if they choose, although there are much better choices out there, albeit more expensive choices.