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i believe this is most likely how almost everyone learns about columbus. i find it interesting that people now seem to see any sort of conquest in human history as necessarily "bad" or immoral, and the losers in that conquest to be heroic martyrs. especially if the winners were europeans. its an interesting shift.

i think you can teach nuance with anyone. whether they learn it is up to them. but how you teach it is up to you. i prefer to teach it with a fair amount of nuance.

teaching that columbus was a "thug rapist and murderer" is as accurate as teaching that he was a heroic european explorer who was one of a handful of people who set off one of the greatest world turning events in human history. you can teach them both, i think.

i'm pretty sure most folks here might take issue with the idea of me getting any respect from my peers...

how long ago? and part of this is a correction. you have people - black people - who were locked out of the educational system for the most part. now those people's voices are being heard and - unsurprisingly - they have a different take on american history. its a good thing that those voices are being heard. but that doesnt mean it should go completely the other way either. how far you view that correction is up to you. ymmv. honestly, when i was going to school in detroit there was a lot of focus on civil rights and slavery. and hey, as the only white kid, i got to play abraham lincoln every year in the school play!

i would argue that george washington is more important, but i understand your point. i mean, we can argue that the civil rights act is basically a new us constitution...lol.

where our kids go its all about civil rights. its all they learn about. every book my 5th grader read was about a "person of color" written by a person of color. every book is about overcoming racism in some form. my kid didnt learn about presidents, she learned about martin luther king and ruby bridges and rosa parks. she doesnt learn about the declaration of independence, she learns about the civil rights act. washington isnt the first president, he's a slaveholder. all of which are true. and its a different perspective from which to view american history. do they teach "crt"? no, but they do the bastardized version of it for grade school kids: "black and brown kids are constantly discriminated against by white people." "crt" is a theory about societal discrimination that requires thoughtful debate, you get the HR friendly simplistic stuff fallout from that in grade school and middle school. i think there are plusses to teaching it that way and minuses. like everything else. but it certainly "exists" in schools, even if it doesnt exist to the extent tucker carlson would have you believe.

but what youre saying is kind of like what fox news is saying, just from the opposite side. republicans have blown it up to be something its not, but so does the "what are we supposed to do, ignore slavery and apartheid in america" yelling does the same thing. reasoned people dont want to do either. There should be a fair degree of nuance involved and as we all know, nuance gets thrown out the door when it comes to social media trying to get clicks ("lincoln cancelled!" "republicans dont want to teach slavery!"). its perfectly fair to teach that america has a racial based social system that has brutalized black americans for centuries, while also teaching that america is the great social experiment with democracy and is one of the most open and successful countries for its citizens the world has ever seen.

its not made up. its exaggerated to the point of ridiculousness, but its not made up. as someone who has kids in chicago public schools, i can tell you first hand that it isnt made up.

he's second in the league in goals. he having a monster season.

so you would equate it more to the virginia result?

seider and edvinsson is looking like a potential powerhouse pair, regardless of the era. team still needs a lot, but the progress of their young players is really encouraging.

politically, its the biggest gift to the gop since "defund the police" and "crt".

joe biden won jersey by 16 points. almost losing it two years later should be worrying for democrats.

i think you will have an equal or more difficult time convincing asian and hispanic immigrants that their tax dollars are to go to black people than it will be to convince white people.

the new jersey results should concern democrats more than virginia, imo. virginia seemed pretty likely if you follow historical trends.

you are certainly right about the chinese obfuscating and running out the clock. that said, its a shame the focus is not on finding out the truth and is instead on the politics of who is advocating what theory.

i'd take paul coffey's career for edvinsson and be very pleased with it.

and again...

sure, which is exactly why a BIGGER PAUL COFFEY would be a nice thing to have. sheesh.

i like 12 team playoff with very limited other bowls, but i could be persuaded otherwise. college football just isnt the same anymore, fellas. the emperor has no clothes, its all about money and everyone knows it now. minor league football.

this has loss written all over it.

i see him as our next holmstrom, but i'll take franzen!

edmonton won a couple with him, iirc.

8-1 and a top 5ish team going into penn state. and everything sucks because we know ohio state will beat us by 40. welcome to being a michigan fan.