Jason_R

Yes, Houston’s win could haunt the Lions for years. Chicago may parlay that #1 pick into three top tier starters. I’m not sold that Fields will ever develop into an average passer, but he may have a few more 1000 yard rushing seasons in him before his body gets beat up.

Goff does have a Jekyll and Hyde quality to his game. When he is rattled, he is really rattled. But it is very rare to find a QB like Joe Burrow who seems totally unfazed by the pressure.

McVay is the coaching equivalent of a system QB. Rode the coattails of a gunslinger and a mercenary QB hunter to a Super Bowl, then flamed out.

His career peak was higher than Goff’s (to date) but I don’t think Lamar has any more upside. He is not getting faster, he is not getting more elusive, and he is not getting more durable. I was at the game where RGIII broke off this 76-yard TD run. He was electric. I get why people get excited about dual threat QBs. Within a few seasons he was on the scrap heap.

Yes he had a transcendent season. Couldn’t replicate it. NFL defenses catch up. NFL defenders punish QBs who escape the pocket. Now he can’t finish a season and the team who built their offense around him doesn’t want to commit to him. Cam Newton has been the most successful hybrid, because he was big enough to withstand punishment.

Yes, the dimension it adds is a few extra first downs in fall, a few missed games in winter, and physical breakdown after a few seasons of accumulated hits.

Thank you! They have tailor made their offense for him and he can’t win them playoff games. He was also unable (or unwilling) to suit up for them when their season depended on it. What is the attraction to him again, other than this foolish notion that a QB who can pick up a first down by risking his body is somehow better than a QB who can pick up a first down by making the right check, the right read, and the right throw?

Who wants to live in real life when you can imagine what might happen if you open the mystery box!

Like designed QB runs in September and October that lead to trips to the injured list in November and December.

I'd rather they take Richardson than trade for Lamar. And I'd be distraught if they took Richardson.

Yes, if the Jets get Rodgers they will be legitimate Super Bowl contenders.

I hope this turns into a quarter century of Green Bay in QB purgatory. These idiots have botched this situation and deserve to be remembered for it.

He’s the only one. He had three good seasons out of nine, with two dismal seasons trying to hang on in Carolina. Other than the three good seasons he went 37-58-1. But hey, he was a QB, and he was in a box. 🤷🏻‍♂️

QBs who get hit like RBs have a short shelf life. This is another reason not to go for Richardson.

Ok. I don’t really care about Wood. The point was about Quinntricia.

It was sarcasm for the “system QB” crowd.

I won't be happy until my team finds a box with a QB in it who burns the playbook on day one of training camp. "Systems? I don't need your stinking systems." I want my team's QB to climb out of his box every Sunday, get down on one knee in every huddle, draw a brand new play in the dirt with his finger, then take the snap and start chucking it around the field. That's when I'll really know if he is more than just a system QB.

Who the hell does Goff think he is asking to run plays he is comfortable with? And what kind of stupid sonofabitch is Johnson to let him get away with it? Morans. /s

Whatever one might say about Wood, my takeaway is that anyone and everyone seems to go out of their way to say how much they hated Quinntricia. This level of hate, and this breach of customary decorum is unusual. Typically, when a regime fails, people treat it as the less said the better. But everyone really hated Quinntricia so much that they can’t let it go or feel obligated to distance themselves. Quinntricia’s failure was remarkably thorough.

Couldn’t they make that text any bigger?

The metaphysics of QB evaluation. Closely related to the metaphysics of the catch, AKA “How long must the WR dance on the edge of the side line?”

I am in the “Goff is good enough” camp, not the “there might be a QB in that box” camp. I believe the Lions front office is in the “Goff is good enough” camp, and all of their talk about QBs is a mix of due diligence, smoke screen, and exploration of alternatives for QB2. So I don’t think for a second that any of this will actually happen. The issue is the “there might be a QB in that box” crowd doesn’t account for the fact that they are calling for the replacement of real people with real contracts, real agents, doing real business. You want to replace a Pro Bowl QB? Fine, he has leverage too.

Again, I don’t see the Athletic reporting Holmes’s statement from a month or so ago that it is easier to get worse at the QB position than to get better.

Everybody is seeing what they want to see in this Rorshach test. The "there might be a QB in that box" crowd reads the Athletic article and starts salivating about picking Richardson -- maybe even trading a boatload of picks (to Chicago?) for the privilege! -- because "there might be a QB in that box." The Goff is good enough crowd reads the Athletic article and agrees, yes, the team is in the market for a backup QB. They also rightly point out that you don't pick a backup QB in round 1. On that point, MB is right. If you pick a QB in the first round you are telling Goff his days are numbered. OK, fine, he's a big boy making big boy money and maybe he should just deal with it. But I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't blame him if he requested a trade immediately.

Holmes: "I think it's a lot easier to get worse at quarterback than to get better at quarterback in this league." I would not be surprised if Goff is still QB of the Lions on his 35th birthday.