Mr.TaterSalad

Regarding William Nylander, I'm not saying the Wings should trade for him at this point, but does he end up resigning and staying in Toronto or do folks think there's a better than 50% chance he gets traded?

What qualifications do you want him to have that he doesn't? He's smart, affable, likeable, charismatic, and can relate to voters well, seemingly. He also has the connections to raise the money necessary to win from the many different personal and professional networks he has as an actor, activist, union member, and friend of Obama's. As well, he served on President Obama's cancer research panel. He's lived in Detroit since 2016, so no, he's not a lifelong Michigander. But I think he's got as good a shot as Slotkin at beating the presumptive Republican nominee. The best candidate the Republicans have been able to recruit as of now is State Board of Education member Nikki Snyder and no one else even remotely serious. Congressman Bill Huizenga and former Detroit Police Chief Hollywood James Craig have expressed some interest in running, but have not declared. If they don't, barring some repeat of 2016, it should be a solid year for our Senate Democratic nominee. They don't have a John James type candidate to run this year that we need to be as worried about. For me, it's about picking a quality candidate who can win and has been on the right side of history. Slotkin was a CIA Analyst in Iraq. She would be yet another candidate who was a supporter of the Bush Administration's unlawful and immoral War in Iraq. I think you can look at that as a judgement-based critique of Slotkin.

https://hillharper.com/about/ He's been a leader in his union, he's a single father, a Harvard graduate whose clearly smart enough to handle the job, an activist whose worked with non-profit organizations. Raphael Warnock and Elizabeth Warren both had no prior legislative experience and are doing more than fine in the Senate.

Nice launch video from Hill Harper. I like his messaging in the video and think the freedom message from a black candidate is solid. If he can fundraise and get good support behind him I think he ahs a shot to overtake Slotkin. He already has Warren Evans and former Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence behind him, which is a solid start to help build credibility. https://www.facebook.com/100044553724448/videos/972890097362641/

With Debrincat in a winged wheel uniform now, are your expectations for them to make the playoffs? And if they don't, is the season a failure for you?

The entire Czech National team all gone in one season.

Some of the folks on HF Boards were calling it a robbery and while I do think the 1st round pick protections are definitely to our benefit, I think it's still a decently balanced trade for Ottawa.

Do we know the conditions of the pick yet? Seeing any speculation out there about it?

Who do you think we are the Lions?

Darren Helm retired. Good for him for winning a Cup and fleecing Kenny for a great contract.

I am slowly weening myself off Twitter and the Red Wings section on HF Boards. I'm tired of being on pins and needles with this. if Yzerman makes it happen then fantastic, if not, I'll be bummed but accepting that the rebuild moves onward and hopefully upwards. I'm not waiting around all day with Twitter and HF Boards open. I need to get some actual stuff done at work at some point.

Sean O'Brien and the Teamsters are about to kick UPS' ASS BABY!!!

"Time moves slow when you're seventeen and then it picks up steam at twenty-one. Pretty soon you'll remember when you could remember when you loved someone." - Jason Isbell, Streetlights What lyrics. This guys songwriting never, ever ceases to amaze me and bring out all the feelings.

I don't think I've been too critical of Stevie directly. Disappointed that we haven't gotten it done yet, but not critical of him in the way I was of Holland for years. I have said numerous times in this thread that I still believe in what he's doing because I genuinely do. What I have questioned and wondered allowed, along with others, is where the goal scoring is going to come from to catch us up with the rest of the league and get us out of the bottom 10. If he pulls off this trade I'll give him all the props in the world for it. Debrincat is a good, highly skilled player, who fits our biggest need and fits our timeline. Make it happen Stevie!

Victor Wembanyama slapped Brittney Spears? Edit: It looks like his security may have had an issue where one of the security guards inadvertently pushed/accidentally hit Brittney Spears trying to push her away.

We already have a Lindstrom on the team too. Last time we had both a Lindstrom and an Eiserman on the roster I'd reckon to say we were pretty good.

It'd be our luck that he would have a Jason Pierre-Paul type of injury. Unlike JPP though, who is a DLineman and can get by with the hand injury he sustained, a WR cannot. Luckily Williams is ok and intact for his own sake.

This was shared by a poster on HF Boards regarding the trade and is from TSN's Darren Dreger. "TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger said on the Ray and Dregs Podcast that the winger is looking for a contract similar to the one Timo Meier signed with the New Jersey Devils last week - eight years, $70.2 million, with an average annual value of $8.775 million. Dreger notes, however, that acquiring teams see DeBrincat's value as being close to Jesper Bratt, who inked an eight-year, $63 million contract with the Devils, carrying a cap hit of $7.875 million." "If that’s holding up a trade, and it sounds like it might be, then it’s got to be up to Alex DeBrincat to reconsider or maybe he stays in Ottawa,” Dreger said."

It's not that we should just make a trade for the sake of it. My initial ideal of offering both first round picks to get Debrincat was off-base and ridiculous. But so where the deals that said we should just offer up a 2nd and Zadina and somehow that would get it done. It's somewhere in the middle of that. The same thing goes for William Nylander, who is a superior player to Debrincat. We can't sell the entire farm to get Nylander. If we aren't on his list of teams he won't play for, the call should certainly be placed and if he's the guy Toronto is moving to get under the cap, I think an offer should be made as he fits both need and timeline. We need goal scoring in the worst way possible. We have an up-and-coming defense that should be good enough to carry us into the playoffs and beyond. Outside of Raymond, who is already on the roster, and possibly Nate Danielson, who do we have in the pipeline that is any kind of serious scoring threat? Who is a guy that is going to be on this roster in the next 2-4 years that will be a 30+ goal scorer and 60+ point a season guy? As @lordstanley said, we don't just pay Yzerman to find average NHL players who can score 15 goals, get you 20 assists, and sign them to 3x$3.5 type of deals. We want him to be prudent and smart about signing those types of players who we need to round out our roster's depth. But we also need him to be bold and smartly aggressive. We need him to make impact, franchise changing moves that will improve this team and accelerate our timeline to being a contender. In our case, we need those moves made to add scoring and goal totals to our roster. If we had gotten any amount of lottery luck and landed ourselves a Connor Bedard, Quinton Byfield, Jack Hughes type of player in the draft this conversation would be different. But we didn't, and alas here we are talking about making a bold trade for an Alex Debrincat or William Nylander type of player. I don't want to mortgage the farm and future for one guy. I also don't want to make the playoffs just for the sake of it. Kenny did that and I hated it and wanted him fired for it. I wanted a complete tank job and rebuild after Kenny left and I got it. That said, I also don't want to be sitting her 2-3 years from now in year 7 of a rebuild having not made any significant progress to being a Cup-contending team, with an over 30 year old Dylan Larkin on the roster and trying to build around that. We pay Yzerman to be both smart and bold as needed. Adding a Nylander or Debrincat can both and accelerate the timeline of our rebuild.

Someone with a high cap number has to be the odd man out in Toronto as they are waaaaay over the cap at $8.1 million. Nylander is rumored to be dissatisfied and Pierre LeBrun reported that he and Toronto aren't even close on a contract. And we got what Toronto could want in return, plenty of draft capital and cheap prospects for their farm. Look, I know chances of this happening are about as good as Al Avila leading an organization to a World Series one day. But let me have my holiday and free agency fun. Don't crush a man's dreams just because he's on the whacky weed.

Toronto is now $8.1 million over the cap having signed Baby Bert and Max Domi. Any chance they get rid of William Nylander and any chance at all we're in play? Who am I kidding, he's not a right side defenseman and we're not in it to win it just yet. Hell, Toronto may not even be fielding trade calls on him. But unless the NHL cap is fugazi, they have to make bold moves to get under it and trading Nylander is certainly one of those. But I can dream can I not? Get me William Nylander and Alex Debrincat and all of a sudden we're smoking!!!

This has to be the year Boston finally regresses, no?