Mr.TaterSalad

And by EP I assume you mean a second or third line center like Linus Karlsson, who Yzerman will be forced to play on the first line.

Yes, of course. But we both know how Yzerman does offer sheets to RFAs . . . He doesn't.

Hey, I was early to call for Holland's firing lol. I made a thread on the old boards back in 2014 about firing Holland. There were fans who saw early on what a disaster Holland was becoming because we caught onto the patterns of behavior he was exhibiting when it came to roster construction. Everyone laughed and ridiculed us. In the end, we were right, Holland did a piss poor job and this organization suffered immensely as a result. I can only hope Yzerman doesn't make the same mistake as Kenny, bury his head in the sand, and not succeed. I want this team to be good, but on the current trajectory, they won't be anytime soon I fear.

Realistically, how many games is this team winning with this forward lineup next year? If Larkin gets traded it with the intent that we will still be competitive next year there HAS TO BE a center coming back in return. If you trot out a lineup of forwards like this you're talking about a 30-35 win team. A team where it is just above the lottery percentages needed to get a top 3 pick more than likely. Robertson-Copp-Raymond DeBrincat-Compher-Arvidsson MBN-Kasper-Appleton Mazur-Rasmussen-Kolesar

If they trade Larkin for Jason Robertson then Andrew Copp becomes our #1 center. If anyone thinks or Stevie thinks we're a playoff team with Andrew Copp as our top center, then go watch a lot more hockey from every other team in the league. With Copp as our #1 center and Robertson and Raymond as his linemates, we'll be bad enough to clearly miss the playoffs, but not good enough to get a top 3 lottery pick. Congratulations Stevie, you will have made your team the Joe Dumars/Stan Van Gundy Pistons from 2010-2019.

How can the NFL show a partial owner of one team to buy another team? He should have to divest from the 49'ers before buying the Seahawks.

I am onboard with this as well. His refusal to start the rebuild over is a big sign of trouble to me. It signals an unwillingness to realize things have failed and a course correction is needed. It signals to me that he doesn't quite get why this rebuild as failed either. I'm not fully ready to say fire Yzerman yet as I was with Holland. But I'm on the cusp of it.

You go around accusing Jewish people of essentially being bad Jews because they don't submit to your world view of what a real Jew is and isn't. I realize you're a Rhodes Scholar and the gatekeeper for Judaism around these parts, but even still. That's my point

Another vehement Jewish antisemite in Brad Lander endorses Abdul El-Sayed. Andy Levin, Bernie Sanders, Brad Lander in temple on Saturday, eating a burger with extra cheese on it on Sunday.

Haley Stevens asked for deferments on her financial disclosure forms every year in Congress. LOL!

Haley Stevens has a lot of gumption calling out Abdul's attitude towards woman when she endorsed a man for President in Mike Bloomberg who called woman fat broads, horse-faced lesbians, and made them sign NDAs to silence them. She obviously wasn't troubled by Bloomberg's misogyny and sexism.

"That's an incredible story Nico, but Imma need you to stay in Grand Rapids for a little while longer until you learn some maturity and to become a two-way rescuer." - Steve Yzerman

RIP Bonnie Tyler.

I think the fact that Yzerman wants current roster players and refuses to recognize that his rebuild isn't working is more troubling. There is no NHL player right now that is equal to Larkin that you could trade him for that would make this team a playoff team and a Cup contender. Not one. This roster has problems all around. They have a lack of scoring depth on every line but the first and that only gets worse losing Kane. They are too soft and don't have enough good forecheckers, who are also capable of scoring goals. They still have a terrible backend defense on the third line and still have Ben Chiarot likely taking first or second line minutes next year. And iff you don't trade Larkin for a center, your problems only get significantly worse as you're then talking about having Andrew Copp on your top line as your top center. Yzerman needed to admit that this rebuild failed and either do a soft reset of it or break this team up Florida Marlins style, fire sale, and start over. He did neither and chose the worst option, keeping us in purgatory.

Is he a bust or is he going to make Yzerman look foolish if he gets a chance to start somewhere else. Could be either one. I'm open to the idea that it was a bad pick and he never fully developed into what they were hoping for. But he's not been given a chance to succeed or fail at the NHL level.

I've said it for weeks and I will keep saying it, this guy needs to drop out and allow a new candidate to step in. He is a hot mess and the scandals just keep piling up. An allegation of sexual assault is very serious and should be fully investigated. Given all the other scandals plaguing him and his past comments on Reddit about rape and sexual assault, I presume he is likely guilty of it or something that walks right up to that line.

Hopefully this is a sign he's dropping out. This guy is one disaster and scandal after another. He needs to go and focus on his life, marriage, and being a better human being.

As much as some of us might want a true, veteran replacement for Arnold, this is an organization that values next man up. They want the next person they've drafted or already signed to step up and take the reigns. I suspect it will be next man up for guys like Ya-Sin, Rakestraw, and McCreary to take that #2 CB spot.

You can take Douglas off the list for potential Arnold replacements.

Right. We all know this. Ward is on the second-to-last year of his contract. You can restructure a deal to bring him in under the cap for this year and next. You'll get money, albeit a small amount, coming off the books from not having Arnold here and not extending him. Restructured contracts on your teams balance sheet of course runs the risk of kicking the financial can down the road and having it all come due at once. The Lions ran into this problem when Martin Mayhew was GM. But this roster built by Brad Holmes, unlike Mayhew's, is good enough to contend for a Super Bowl. So why not take a swing on a guy like Ward to help a depleted CB position and go all in for a Super Bowl. This is a team and roster worth going for it all with.

The same people I was going to cut when I wanted Trey Hendrickson. No one. I'm restructuring the remaining $12 or so million on the Goff deal, plus restructuring Sewell and St. Brown as needed. The money is there if the Lions want it to be. I would hate to go into the season, onein which we should be a Super Bowl contender, with DJ Reed plus question marks at CB2.

Pride of Detroit was talking about Denzel Ward from the Browns as an Arnold replacement. Ward probably costs us a 2nd round pick, but he's a quality veteran starter on a pretty good defense in Cleveland.

NAME REDACTED already has attempted to influence the outcome. The New York Times reported that the OFFICE REDACTED OF THE COUNTRY REACTRED, NAME REDACTED, came out and called Gianni Infantino days before the ban/suspension was lifted. I'd be amazed if NAME REDACTED didn't try to sway FIFA's decision making on behalf of COUNTRY REDACTED. Sorry for all the silliness above. I know this isn't the political forum, but if indeed NAME REDACTED from COUNTRY REDACTED called FIFA's Gianni Infantino with the intent of influencing the decision that's a huge problem for an organization whose credibility is already in the toilet. And NAME REDACTED was the one who potentially made this a political issue.

Were I another leader in another country or the head of their men's national team I would be furious about what has transpired with the reversal of the suspension. This is especially true in light of NAME REDACTED coming forward and using the power of the OFFICE REDACTED to influence the outcome of a suspension.

AIPAC has at least two to three different offshoot organizations that are supporting Haley. They're just too cowardly to put them under the AIPAC branding because they know how toxic they've become.