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MLBPA would never allow it.

I would think its a bit of bird in the hand. Like E-Rod knows he has $77 million in the bank. If he holds on for the new CBA is that figure really going to change all that much? Maybe for someone a few extra, the new CBA is likely to impact guys like players with 4 year time or veteran not prime age free agents. Those guys ar ealways gonna get theirs no matter the CBA. But, now E-Rod knows he gets $77 million in the bank.

Like did you read my post at all? Cause its clear you didn't. Look he doesn't have to disclose anything and I can look at the ijury report. But, then when the rumors start and you do nothing to stop it its seem disingenous to whine about it then. Post it on instagram, talk to a media outlet, all of the whining could have been nipped weeks ago, but he didn't and now is mad it continued. That's BS. It's like running a business, sometimes saying nothing is OK. Sometimes you need to get ahead of the problem or stop it. Decker played it quiet which is fine. But, then you can't come out and go people are full of crap and they need to shut up when they have to fill in the gaps cause you refused.

I don't listen to it. Boy he could have talked to the free press, teh athletic, espn, gotten on Colin Cowherd, etc etc. There's a lot more options than "call valenti"

Detroit ranks 47...ahead of Phoenix, Tampa, Los Angeles, miami. But for comapirson sake the averge pay in Detroit is 22K in NYC, 14th on the list, its 28K. I can tell you 28K gets you homeless in NYC and 22K in detroit can at least get you something. I say this just to say measure markets by wealth is fool-hearty because big cities are gonna drive down the cost for a host of reasons. It's about TV sets and detroit ranks 14th.

oh no Verlander the closer talk again.

$82 It's a roller derby team

Boy if only there were outlets that talked to players where players could tell others what is going on. Nope, I guess we'll all just sit in silence and just see "finger" listed on any reoprt. Decker is full of **** here. He could have called into Valenti anytime he wanted and explained what was going on. Instead he sits silence and then is mad when the rumor mill goes crazy? No sympthay here. Players can't have it both ways, they can't sit there and demand privacy for on the field injuries, then when people question it, stay silent, then get mad at what people say.

I think the problem is considering Johnny Kane legit

Yep. And it makes sense from teh Tigers prespective, by that time you hope the big 3 are chugging along and its like ok let's roll with cheap pitcher A in his spot. If you like the depth you can resign E-Rod, If he goes elsewhere you either got another $15 million free or you just invest in that year's version of E-Rod.

Don't forget the pandemic

I think those numbers are woefully under. Too many people think $20 million is the big threshold. 12 players last year made more than $30 million. 33 different players, including guys like Charlie Morton, made at least $20 million. Heck guys are getting $18 milliion in arbitration. Story made $18.5 million last year. He is a good age, plays Short and is a free agent. I'd love to get him for a 2 million raise, but I'd be shocked if it happens. Then you got some big makets saying hey we're gonna spend. None of that seems to indicate a bunch of $18 AAV deals. Correra will get something like 300 million with opt outs on both sides (like a mutual option that become a player option after four years if he pays in an average of like 80 games). Seagar will approach 300 million. Story and Seimien will both be around the 225 range.

not to mention no team has a bunch of sucess developing 9th round players. Saber is being unfair in his criticsm. It's not like the White Sox are out there hitting o 7th round picks year after year.

We've had this discussion before people like Tiger337 just want something fun to watch. Me -- the correct group-- wants championships because that's the goal. Nobody remembers the really good teams.

Sure in a vacuum compared to us, but I think if you told them they signed pujols one one title and then sucked the other 9 years they'd be ok with that too. The point, which you just ignored, is that letting pujols go didn't make them win more. So to argue its somehow the right decision is just conjecture.

Different discussion. Now you're talking about the length of the contract and whether he should be signed. Mike was not gonna let him walk, nor should he. At that time he was the best player but nobody thought he'd break down in year 1. It was absolutely necessary they extend him two years before free agency instead of one. (Not to mention there were a slew of young players ready to break the bank and that would have created further problems. It's why they extended jv when they did)

Again, not the question! The question was it necessary that we signed him two year before he hit FA. They wanted to keep him, that was the time to reisgn him. Whether that was a prudent decision is a different discussion (And I've said it before the cardinals let pujos go, they won exactly as many world series as we have in that time)

A) Semien is one player the other guys are like 8 bodies. b) I don't get why people don't get this. They weren't trying to spend and win. It's silly to pay for a year of semien when you have little around him.

I think you missed the point. You said since he had two years to go on the old contract that it was completely "uneccisary" to extend them. I disagree, if they didn't it would have put him a eyar from FA when they tried to extend them and he would have gone to FA. The Tigers weren't gonna let that happen, just like you don't let a coach that you want to keep getdown to the final year of his deal

I don't get your love of Semien. Fine player, but let's look at it. He has exaclty zero years with an OPS over .900. He has exaclty two years with an OPS+ above 100. He no longer plays shortstop, wasn't very good in 2020 and wasn't much until his 28 year old season. Not to mention he will be 31. What makes you think he's the best value/gonna sustain those two years compared to the otehr 8?

I would argue that it "was unnecessary" if you waited another year all players are likely to take it to FA. It's the same reason coaches don't want to have a one-year deal. See every College football coach with a contract under four years of Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Moneyball.

There is less of a history of decent players signing one year deals, especially with us. But, sure lets go with that one.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/top-50-mlb-free-agent-rankings.html 1. Carlos Correa. Ten years, $320MM. Tim Dierkes: Tigers / Steve Adams: Phillies / Anthony Franco: Tigers In this winter’s star-studded class of free agent shortstops, we consider Correa the best. The Astros drafted Correa first overall out of Puerto Rico Baseball Academy back in 2012, and he won the 2015 AL Rookie of the Year award despite debuting in June. The 2016 season was a continuation of that success, and Correa seemed unstoppable.

is it domed?

But there is ahuge difference in the sports. In the NBA the max contract is 4/5 years. In the MLB the standard contract for a big time signing is 8-12 years. So it makes way way way more sense on the NBA level and you aren'te leaving 200+ million on the table. Really and apple to oranges .