tiger2022

Michigan-Ohio-Indiana border area here. Hasn't rained today but the clouds look dark.

Might as well rush him to the majors too. He played most of last season in A ball and did okay, but he is 23 with 60 games this season in AA. Getting rid of Tork and bringing him up way before he is ready sounds like a disaster for the rest of the season and for the years ahead.

The Tigers pitching is going through a rough stretch. Hopefully Dietrich can give them a quality start today.

Your whole point was to trade those guys instead of "blue chippers". So they are either blue clippers or fringe prospects

Going with the Avila approach...a bunch of bad prospects instead of one solid prospect....I dont know if all mlb teams look at their star players with such contempt

Maybe try to be a bit on the positive side more in life?

that isn't a white Sox fan thing, it's a bleeping a-hole thing. Every team has fans that are like this.

The Tigers only have Skubal for this year and next. They need to trade for mlb talent that can help them win a WS in that time period. Realistically, most of the prospects are going to be busts anyway or turn out to be like Trey Sweeney level of mlb player. Very rarely does a team trading for prospects win any trade. Take a look at the Tigers selling off all their stars for a bunch of guys that could barely make it to AA.

Pirates aren't trading Skenes since they have 4 more years of control.

The Tigers need to do something before the trade deadline. They have two years of Skubal left. They can't waste those years by worrying about trading a bunch of minor leaguers that will probably never be anything other than Trey Sweeney type of mlbers. I would like the front office to try to add a quality outfield bat. The Orioles have some veterans they might want to dump. This might be a year where a lot of teams hold onto their guys.

Verlander was/is a giant d-bag too, but no one cared when he was winning Cy Youngs.

I wonder if the Tigers will try to trade for a pitcher or two. WIthout looking up their contract status, someone like Jeffrey Springs or Zach Eflin. No point in getting to the postseason and having the starters get destroyed in a short series.

The starting pitching is a huge concern. Is there anyone that is trustworthy other than Skubal. Mize is the 2nd best option.

Pretty much anyone who played against the Tigers in the 90s. I know Mark McGwire has like 10 or 15 more Hrs against the Tigers than any other team.

I thought the Tigers were going to be a 4th place team this season. Their pitching has been nothing short of amazing.

It matters so much. David Ortiz...2 failed steroid tests...HOF. writers loved him. Barry Bonds...no chance of HOF. No one in their right mind would argue Ortiz is even close to the player that Bonds is.

Do you think the HOF should be where players are measured against their peers who played in the same general years? Or just everyone ever? As an example, Parrish would be competing more against guys like Fisk and Carter, etc. In that example and not guys like Perez or Posey.

I'm also thinking the expectations of the pitcher counting stats, namely wins is going to look a lot different. Kershaw might be the last guy to get to 200 wins. Especially with all the injuries and game and inning limits. There's only 3 guys under 200 wins that have at least 120. Cole and Sale might be the last guys to have a shot for quite a while. Skubal has 48 career wins at 28. i know wins doesnt carry the value as a pitcher stat as iti used to, but the number that stands out now might be 150.

I'm wondering if voters still have the Colorado player bias. It took Todd Helton 6 tries on the ballot to get in the HOF. I also feel that if Scott Rolen is the new benchmark, then Arenado, Goldschmidt, McCutchen should all be locks along with other HOF marginal guys.

He's on the 100% list in my post. For whatever reason I left Trout off it.

I forgot him on the list. He's 100%.

I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on this are. 100%- Freeman, Altuve, Machado, Harper, Betts, Perez, Lindor, Judge, Ohtani, Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw. Not sure if there is much debate with those guys. I think there are arguments for the following: Jose Ramirez, McCutchen, Goldschmidt, Arenado, Boegarts, Stanton, Trea Turner, Correa, Bergman, Seager, Martel, Bellinger, Yelich, Sale, Cole, Nola, DeGrom Acuna, Devers, Soto, Riley all have excellent chances, although I view Devers and Vlad Jr as kind of similar to Cabrera in that they have so much natural talent but they don't even try to stay in shape. So they might end up sucking by 33 or 34 kind of like Cabrera. Any thoughts on any of the middle group of players?

I don't think the bullpen strategy is sustainable for an entire season. To start, the rotation was Skubal, Flaherty, Maeda, Olson, Mize with Manning in the wings. Next season, I believe the Tigers are bringing in starters, hopefully to go 5 or 6 innings per game.

Nothing more sad and embarrassing than a grown man calling a guy who carved out a successful career in mlb McStinky.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, but you do you.