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They are gonna lose some guys off the current 40 man roster due to trades and / or expiring contracts (Grossman, Barnhart, Pineda, Fulmer all obvious candidates, possibly Chafin or Soto as well), so they'll have some opportunities to find room for them. But yeah, even with this subpar roster, it will be more challenging than normal.
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There was a lot of discussion around the time Arizona picked him up that it may have been in part because Brent Strom (previous longtime Astros pitching coach) is pitching coach there. If "Strommy" can't fix Keuchel, he's not likely to be fixed. We all know his pedigree and track record, but fans of the Detroit Tigers (of all teams) should know that track records aren't always predictive of future results.
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Can't speak for others, but I wouldn't characterize my position as "wanting" or "not wanting", but rather a reflection of reality.... they aren't going to move on from Miggy, particularly with the current way that the roster is structured. Having said that, I don't understand what Miggy's presence does to preclude the Tigers from shopping or trading in order to make the roster better during this trade deadline or in the offseason. The only way Miggy impacts, IMO, is because of salary obligations, but even there he's a sunk cost at this point; contracts are guaranteed in this sport, so the Tigers on the hook regardless. As stated earlier, I do believe if we're hoping for a reduced role for Miggy in 2023, it requires Akil Baddoo to reach his potential and for Austin Meadows to (finally) return and show some signs of life in August. If that happens, you could see a scenario where Meadows needs occasional DH duty, especially if the Tigers were to go out and look for another outfielder in the offseason (they should, but Chris I / Al may have different thoughts) or if someone like Kerry Carpenter comes up and looks decent (despite his massive numbers in AA/AAA, I'll believe it when I see it)
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Now that his kid is back with the big club, maybe Roger wants to come back and shove a few innings for this club lol
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If this is a lost season and the results don't matter, why does it matter whether Keuchel has a better track record? Keuchel is 34 and doesn't have a future.... neither are particularly good, but Hutchison is better right now and seems capable of successfully eating more innings for this club than Keuchel does. It seems pointless to DFA him in order to fill the role with a guy who seems less capable for the next few months.
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Even if there are doubts about De Jesus or ElRod and how capable they may be at the big league level, Keuchel isn't good enough to justify DFA'ing guys who potentially could be future pieces. DFA'ing Hutchison, who is already filling an innings eater role, for an innings eater who is worse makes little sense as well.
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Who gets DFA'd to make room for Keuchel? Either way, in the grand scheme of things, we haven't seen much of Hill or ElRod at the major leagues... I'd rather see what they have, or a Joey Wentz whenever he comes back from injury, or even Reese Olson or Wilmer Flores if it gets to that point, versus giving starts to a guy who can't hold down a job pitching for Arizona.
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Framed in a different way, maybe the goal for the next year and a half for this team should be to earn the right to push him further down the lineup. I get it, Miggy isn't the player he used to be and that's why people want to move on. But the talent in terms of position players on this roster isn't good enough to justify moving on from him - it just isn't.
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If Fetterman wins, people are going to chalk it up to Oz being a bad candidate, just watch. But that really downplays the fact that Fetterman almost seems designed in a lab to be the ideal candidate to go up against a phony like Oz. And he has skillfully made him look like an idiot over and over again in ways that conventional candidates wouldn't or couldn't. And that's to his credit.
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At a minimum, if you want to lessen Miggy's role, getting contributions from Akil Baddoo and Austin Meadows (who reportedly could be back in August) seems like the best bet. Because at that point, especially if they looked to add an outfielder in the offseason, you could see a need for Meadows more at DH. But this roster is a long ways away from that at this point.
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Miguel isn't going anywhere, for better or worse. They aren't going to unceremoniously cut arguably the greatest Tiger player in modern history before his final swan song year. But if the team wants to reduce his playing time and / or move him down the order, it is incumbent upon them to improve this lineup or create a pretense by which to do it. That pretense does not exist yet, which says a lot more about the Tigers than it does about Miguel at this point in his career.
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They have about four or five guys that would have been better off pitching in Toledo this year, but what is preferred and what is reality often doesn't mix. The reality is that Garrett Hill and Elvin Rodriguez are already on the 40 man roster and, to varying degrees, could factor into the future of this ballclub. In order to bring Keuchel on, you have to DFA someone off the 40 man roster.... is it worth giving someone the boot for Keuchel, particularly when you have Manning, Rogers and Turnbull who are on 60 Day IL and will require roster maneuvering if they come back this year. I just don't see it as being worth it, particularly for a starter carrying a 9 ERA.
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Still taking a pass