mtutiger

This season, probably not much if at all... I do think it's reasonable to expect him back in some form next year. Overall, my point is just that the Tigers are gonna need to cover 25-30 starts at the back end of the rotation on account if not having him, and adding Pineda to the mix is a relatively low cost proposition to add depth in order to cover some of that loss.

Another way to look at it is that, with Turnbull due back sometime late year/next year, the Tigers have to cover somewhere around 25-30 starts with some combination of their depth... having Pineda around, even with the injury risk, gives you a solid option to cover some (or possibly even most) of that load. For the terms ($5 mil+ incentives), it's seems low risk/high reward for them.

My guess is that he slots in as a 4th starter (behind Skubal, before Manning) when the Tigers ultimately make that call. But that's up to Al/AJ lol

Also, iirc, Manaea has one year and Montes two left on their contracts. If you execute a trade for either, you are risking whatever odds they may want to test free agency. Like you suggest, if their playoff chances weren't fringey, it would be one thing... but idk, it's risky to make that kinda move with where they are at now. Depth will serve them better at least in the short term... if they are performing better than expected in July, maybe we are having a different conversation

I'm kinda working off the assumption that Alexander will still be making some starts this year. But having Pineda at least means you aren't rolling through 162 while rolling the dice on just Alexander to hold down #5. If Pineda stays healthy (not a guarantee), he will do just fine for someone holding down a 4/5 starting slot. At the terms listed by Jon Heyman, seems like a pretty good value.

I see a lot of frustration on social media that they didn't go for Montes or Manaea, but given that those two very well could have required Manning as a piece of the package, I almost prefer this result . Good short term depth addition, gives them more flexibility with Alexander as well.

Is Brett Anderson still out there or did someone offer him a deal yet?

Hoping to see more of Kody Clemens this spring... maybe, just maybe, it'll help put Willi behind us

Kody Clemens with the jack!

Young kids angling for that opening day roster!

All sounds good.... just don't do anything too stupid in the trade market lol

Go home Jon, you're drunk!

Reminds me of ballmich

I wonder if Greg Abbott will make a campaign issue out of this

Honestly, the negotiations seem mostly like Kabuki theater to me... so long as His Czarness isn't personally involved anyway.

Truly terrible broadcaster, I'll never understand why some like him... just one example from last year was asking Kris Bryant what he thought about likely not being a Cub after the trade deadline while he was representing the Cubs in the All Star Game. Just classless.

Definitely.... we'll see if they land someone else!

Darn, he's going home lol

The richest man in the world has thoughts on his Oligarchs.

I don't know if they'll get him, but I'm glad that they are at least trying for Grienke.... makes a ton of sense for a 4/5 starter and someone for the younger pitchers to spend time with. Could be a Kenny Rogers-esque situation.

I'd imagine there's still a chance the Tigers land a 5th starter in free agency, but the competition is stiff enough where we may want to get comfortable with the idea of having to plug that hole with Alexander and Co. Landing Chafin lessens the blow there.... not landing any additional pitching improvements at all would have been a disappointment.