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I guess I'm unclear as to how this is unique to the left. In general, we have a lot of people across the spectrum who don't do a great job listening to the other side or respecting their views.

Yep. DirecTV is under no obligation to carry their speech, just as they are under no obligation to carry any other channel.

Since you ignored it earlier: But let's be honest here.... conservatives are all about shutting down speech they don't like. That's really what this comes down to, and a big reason why the cancel culture debate is mostly just a bunch of bollocks in my view : the same people who complain about OANN today had no problem canceling Natalie Maines for her comments back in the day about the Iraq War. Or calling for Colin Kaepernick's head. It all comes down to whose ox is being gored.... if one wants to be really principled and say you are all about free speech, you need to do it in all instances. And one needs to be able to recognize that businesses making a business decisions or trusts making decisions in their private interests (ie. the dumb Dr. Seuss controversy) is not cancel culture, but simply business.

Yep. And to the extent that people are complaining about DirectTV and their decision here, it's yet another case of how the new conservative ethos is to have the unequivocal right to say incendiary and false stuff while being shielded from any consequences for those choices. It's a wild position for self-described capitalists to take. What a time to be alive.

Absolutely. And from experience as an engineer, 100 acres is miniscule.... there are probably thousands of projects that are happening in this country on a daily basis that clear more acreage for activities that produce far more carbon than this project would. Just dumb all around.... no wonder climate activism is pretty ineffective at winning hearts and minds.

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This seems like a good place to share this. If you're working to change how energy is delivered in this country in a broad way, this strikes me as an absolutely insane position. It's a big reason why I often don't understand what climate activism seeks to accomplish.... it all just comes across as "zero development ever", which taken to it's logical end, basically means going back to the stone age.

Because the base of potential MSNBC/CNN viewers may be more predisposed to get their news via more traditional sources (ie. newspapers / national news broadcasts) than they would be from watching cable news?

But let's be honest here.... conservatives are all about shutting down speech they don't like. That's really what this comes down to, and a big reason why the cancel culture debate is mostly just a bunch of bollocks in my view : the same people who complain about OANN today had no problem canceling Natalie Maines for her comments back in the day about the Iraq War. Or calling for Colin Kaepernick's head. It all comes down to whose ox is being gored.... if one wants to be really principled and say you are all about free speech, you need to do it in all instances. And one needs to be able to recognize that businesses making a business decisions or trusts making decisions in their private interests (ie. the dumb Dr. Seuss controversy) is not cancel culture, but simply business.

Probably these guys, Randy

https://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfeed/postings/2022/01/myocarditis-covid19.php For what it's worth, here's a good, easy to understand read from the University of Utah on myocarditis and its connection to COVID / COVID vaccines. The upshot is that you are more likely to develop myocarditis from getting COVID than you are from the vaccine. Seems like a pretty compelling factor to consider

Just to back up a second, would this be indicative of his defense for having said that young healthy adults shouldn't get vaccinated?

Business makes business decision. That's called capitalism, Archie.

A real Bill Engvall moment for these folks lol

Not to get too personal, but I'm 33 years old and am just about recovered from a breakthrough case of COVID. Despite being in the presence of others while initially showing symptoms, including family members who are older than I, none of them yet has started showing symptoms or has tested positive. My wife, who I live with and don't really have the choice of isolating from, has tested negative throughout this whole thing. I can't say that it would have played out exactly this way had I (or others) not been vaccinated. I'm not 100% sure it would have been as mild, and I'm even less sure that I wouldn't have given it to others. That's my argument against Rogan's point right there... it isn't about me dingus, it's about everyone else in my life.

Certainly, it's important to meet people where they are. If you are someone in Sanjay Gupta's position and your goal is to try to educate and hopefully change a few minds, you can't just stick to familiar outlets, you have to sometimes go places where the audience may be less receptive. Having said all that, it doesn't really change my view that Rogan isn't a very well informed person or that he doesn't know what he's talking about on COVID a lot of the time.

I mean, if it helps even a small amount, that's an argument in order to get the vaccine. Especially when it isn't clear to me what the argument is against a younger person getting a vaccine.

I haven't listened to him much either, but to the extent that I have, this seems right. But I can see how his takes on COVID become problematic during a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic as well.

Should healthy 21 year olds be concerned about spreading COVID to others? Even with reduced efficacy with respect to Omicron, my understanding is that the vaccine does help reduce spread.

The argument isn't so much that she's not more educated than Hannity or Tucker, but rather that she's a media personality that does a job that, at least in my opinion, doesn't contribute much to society. And, like Hannity or Tucker or Rogan, I'm not sure why so many people view them as authorities on much of anything. But then again, I'm more of a print guy than a teevee guy or a radio guy at this point.

Rogan is a great example too of how we give dubious media personalities a lot more power and influence over the discourse than we should. In that sense, he's really no different than Tucker or Hannity or Maddow. He doesn't have any real talent that any of us on this board couldn't do, he doesn't provide any real value to the society, except for the fact that he provides entertainment to those who find his schtick entertaining and subsequently sells products and services three hours at a time. It's, for the most part, harmless , but I do think when we get into a 100-year pandemic situation, it can be very problematic to say the least.

I've never cared for Rogan, but really I just don't like the format of show in general. It's no different than how I feel about Dax Shepard, who (like Rogan) comes across like someone who thinks he knows more than he actually does. Even Maron, who I've listened to for a while, has started to grate on me a lot. Maybe it's the pandemic or just burnout on interview podcasts, idk.

Ohio's gerrymander is dead on arrival.... this potentially takes a 13-2 map and puts something like 9-6 on the table for Democrats, depending on how the court draws.

It's really not hard: people look to the CDC and the FDA for guidance on the vaccine. At the time, Robert Redfield, CDC Director, said (accurately) that the vaccine would be ready in early 2021. Donald Trump goes out, refutes that, and says that it will be ready in 'late October' (ie. before the election). In light of that, it's not exactly surprising that people wouldn't find Trump a trustworthy source on the vaccine. My standard on taking the vaccine always came down to buy-in from experts.... and for whatever reason, people just sort of gloss over how a politician (Trump) attempted to interfere with that process for political ends. And how that may have damaged trust.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/16/913560563/cdc-director-says-covid-vaccine-likely-wont-be-widely-available-until-next-year In light of Archie's Earth 2.0 prognostications, it's worth revisiting (again) one of President Trump's actions during the Fall of 2020 and how it probably wasn't all that helpful if the goal was to get as many people vaccinated as possible. Specifically tying vaccine distribution to the election (contradicting his own CDC Director) was a serious mistake made by Trump. For whatever reason, people just seem to gloss over it and forget about it.