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I think a good argument is that there’s probably nobody even close to Candelario who is reasonably available to us next year, unless we want to pay 4x his projected arb to lure Arenado here, which I promise ain’t happening. Granted, my assumption is that 2021 is closer to Jeimer’s true level than 2022. But even if he were guaranteed next year to split the difference between the two exactly in the middle, he would be a slam dunk to bring back at $7 million.

He was an average to even plus defender before this year, if you believe OA, anyway. He’s never going to be coached up to Nolan Arenado, but are we sure his defense has fallen off the cliff permanently as well? I wonder how much the hitting woes he wasn’t getting any help for affected the rest of his game, which is a thing. Would it better to completely punt on offense to get Kreidler’s glove in there for 140 games? FWIW, I doubt Harris will be willing to throw that against the wall.

Of course. That was always going to be the condition. The discussion at hand among us sitting out here in nobodyland is, do we think he’s fixable, or do we think his career is over? I’m in Camp Fixable. How about you?

Also, if all you want is to match 2022 at 3B, might as well bring back Jeimer, because he is probably 90+% likely to exceed that. And if the counter is yeah but it’s $7 million versus $750,000, I would say, I really doubt $6.25 million is a crippling difference to Baby Doc.

I think if we cut him, he’s gone, because there are at minimum half a dozen other teams that would be quite happy to bring Jeimer on for some substantial fraction of $7 million. This isn’t Drew Hutchison we’re talking about—this is someone who’s actually valuable to lots of other teams.

Would you pay $7 million for this? AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 512 69 131 33 4 17 63 58 6 126 1 1 .256 .338 .436 .774

This is the fifth straight ALCS the Yankees have lost. The last two before tonight’s were by A. J. Hinch.

It’s a journalistic best practice that they follow 100% of the time, regardless of the entity involved. If they call it a war crime before it’s officially determined to be, they veer into the subjectivity of determining who they choose to call it a war crime for and who they don’t. “But you called what Russia is doing a war crime, why aren’t you calling what this one African country is doing a war crime?” It leads to too much discussion they don’t want to have. Much more efficient to follow the rule all the time regardless and put up with online criticism about pulling punches versus serious, potentially actionable accusations of bias.

Nerd Alert: In defense of their use of the word “potential”, and only that: it’s a war crime only when it’s been determined as such by the International Criminal Court, and not when the paper simply publishes an article based on unvetted source testimony. Until the ICC rules on it, the media have to use the word “potential”. It’s a legitimate libel issue.

He did a pretty poor job of mocking her. He clearly wasn’t ready to hear that.

You will like this thread.

This is true if you believe, as you and many here apparently do, that Jeimer Candelario has suddenly become no better than a fungible, freely-available replacement-level player—or even, as someone else suggested, a worse option than eeny-meeny-miney-moeing a pick off the Rule 5 pile. I don't agree either of those is the case as of yet. I happen to think there is a really good chance that Jeimer is the best 3B option reasonably available to us for 2023, and as of this moment, I would hate to let him go for nothing.

I'm not worried about crossing that bridge until next winter. I'd like to see whether we can get him fixed and contributing for next year before we have to worry about a good problem to have like do we sign him for 2024 which, really, we have no idea what the rest of the team around him even looks like until then.

Same coaches who perhaps are fine enough to have around when a player is going good and doesn't need help, but are clueless to step in once they start going bad.

Is health merely luck? Asking for another team ...

Sure they were, but then, they're competitive for three games every year.

I'm into a world cup right now. India had a thrilling last ball victory over Pakistan just today.

Is that so? OK.

Oxymoronic post. 😉

Did Tony Romo just say that the Lions, after having gotten some of their injured players back, will be “formidable” on TG? That’s some desperate promotion for the short-straw broadcast, there.

What difference will that make? We have had top eight draft picks each of the last four years, and this team, right here, is the team we’ve ended up with. What makes you think it will be any different next year, the year after that, and beyond? Especially since Campbell is practically guaranteed to be here at least halfway into the 2025 season.

Nobody within ten feet of Hendershot on that TD. Campbell’s not the only one giving up on the team.

Detroit ain’t America’s Team™.

No chance Campbell goes anywhere before Week 9 in Year 5. Fords aren’t gonna eat four-plus years of a six-year contract.

I still think there’s a not half-bad chance we go to arb with Jeimer. He was considered a good-hitting four-win player all the way up to the end of 2021; I find it unlikely that he has permanently fallen off the cliff in a career-ending way within a single year, at age 28, while playing in an historically-bad offensive coaching environment. I could see us taking the $7 million gamble to see whether he can be restored, because who else we got? Ryan Kreidler? Are we really ready to hand him 502+ plate appearances next year? Or do we simply add 3B to the long list of black-hole positions to fill from the outside? Even if we don’t go to arb with him, I find it even less likely that we can DFA him and then simply sign him to a minor-league contract in an unimpeded way. There are lots of teams that would consider Jeimer an upgrade, or at least someone who can be fixed enough to repair their own 3B woes. A’s, Nationals, Diamondbacks, Royals, Reds, Giants—they all have uncertain situations at 3B right now. Even the Cubs might be willing to take a flyer on a Devil They Know. I really doubt no one else would even take a look at Jeimer if we cut him loose on the market.