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[gehringer_2]

34 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Really noticeable how they've been blamed the past couple of days from terrorist incidents committed by actual American citizens and military vets.

What is frustrating about the LasVegas incident being immediately, inextricably and wrongly linked to NOLA is that a situation where a man who served with distinction for something like 20yrs, and who was probably suffering PTSD, CTE or some other service related impact, is going to be swept under the rug with none of the issues implied aired.

[CMRivdogs]

https://bsky.app/profile/brandonfriedman.bsky.social/post/3leurajgcds2h
 

It's not really the military's job. It's the job of the Department of Veterans Affairs, which is not only regularly targeted for cuts and privatization by Republicans, but also specifically mentioned by Musk and Ramaswamy as part of their DOGE project.

 

 

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An indictment of the military's failure to support people in successfully reintegrating into civilian life -- as well as a failure to spot extremism early theintercept.com/2025/01/02/m...

U.S. Military Service Is the Strongest Predictor of Carrying Out Extremist Violence

The mass murder in New Orleans and Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas fit a troubling pattern among U.S. vets, research says.

 

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Send people to war for 20 straight years, then cut their healthcare and benefits in the name of government efficiency, I can assure you that you will see some pretty terrible outcomes.

January 3, 2025 at 6:40 PM

[Tigeraholic1]

The LW narrative is the VA is responsible for New Year’s Day actions. No ISIS or Muslim reference.
 

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/intercept

 

[pfife]

Lol

[pfife]

The guy you brag about voting for killed ISIS, remember?

 

[mtutiger]

Meanwhile, last I heard, Donald Trump and Mike Johnson were both blaming illegal immigrants for the actions of the terrorists, both of whom were born in the United States. 

Where do they fall on the bias spectrum?

[pfife]

They clearly favor terrorists over illegal immigrants.    Doesnt bode well for those of us who hate terrorism.    Imagine bragging about voting for terrorist supporters 

[Tigerbomb13]

34 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The LW narrative is the VA is responsible for New Year’s Day actions. No ISIS or Muslim reference.
 

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/intercept

 

If they all couldn’t be as unbiased as catturd or end wokeness!

[pfife]

Pepe lives matter

[Tigeraholic1]

Cat Turd and End Wokeness are accounts that point to media ineptitude they are not journalists. 

Edited January 4, 2025 by Tigeraholic1

[mtutiger]

1 minute ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Cat Turd and End Wokeness are accounts that point to media ineptitude they are not journalists. 

This doesn't really dispel the notion that both Catturd and End Wokeness are very biased sources of information

[pfife]

'My citations can be biased because theyre not journalists' is hilarious.

More like Tigerahypocrite1.  Yet another standard they hold everyone but themselves to.

Edited January 4, 2025 by pfife

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The LW narrative is the VA is responsible for New Year’s Day actions. No ISIS or Muslim reference.

ISIS is 10,000 miles away and there are 2 billion Muslims on the planet. If America cannot find a way to inoculate American born citizens culturally, emotionally, logically against ISIS's appeal or close the US to the existence of ISIS on the web, then I would submit that is 100% an American problem - because there isn't anything in the world we can do to get rid of Islamic radical theology (anymore then we can 'get rid' of US evangelical fundamentalism - ). So there we are.

Edited January 4, 2025 by gehringer_2

[Tigeraholic1]

Evangelical Christian’s have been accused of plotting mass murders in the U.S. G? They are as dangerous as radicalized jihadists? 

[mtutiger]

51 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

ISIS is 10,000 miles away and there are 2 billion Muslims on the planet. If America cannot find a way to inoculate American born citizens culturally, emotionally, logically against ISIS's appeal or close the US to the existence of ISIS on the web, then I would submit that is 100% an American problem - because there isn't anything in the world we can do to get rid of Islamic radical theology (anymore then we can 'get rid' of US evangelical fundamentalism - ). So there we are.

It certainly doesn't help when our "leaders" (ie. Trump, Speaker Johnson) lie through their teeth about the identity of the actual perps in both New Orleans and Las Vegas.... they weren't from somewhere else, they didn't cross the Mexican border illegally. They were born in the good ol' USA. 

Their problems, which in both cases seem to point toward mental health (although their backgrounds are different in some ways), are problems that would exist independent of the issue of immigration. Seems wise to maybe focus on these root issues over looking for a convenient scapegoat, but that's just me.

Edited January 4, 2025 by mtutiger

[pfife]

DOGE, which magalolic said would be the biggest sucksess of the trump administration which he brags about voting for, is for cutting the VA.   

hilarious concern trolling

Edited January 4, 2025 by pfife

[Tigeraholic1]

11 minutes ago, pfife said:

DOGE, which magalolic said would be the biggest sucksess of the trump administration which he brags about voting for, is for cutting the VA.   

hilarious concern trolling

We have already debated this. They will give vets private healthcare. Medicaid would be an upgrade over VA services. lol thinking the idea is to cut off vets. 

[CMRivdogs]

7 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

We have already debated this. They will give vets private healthcare. Medicaid would be an upgrade over VA services. lol thinking the idea is to cut off vets. 

So in other words everyone’s gonna get screwed with useless Medicare Advantage that comes out of their pocket

[mtutiger]

Generally speaking, privatizing health care services is usually a pretty big loser with the American public in political terms.

[gehringer_2]

57 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Evangelical Christian’s have been accused of plotting mass murders in the U.S. G? They are as dangerous as radicalized jihadists? 

No, just making the point that you can't actually remove *any* kind of ideology or religion from the infosphere, the comparison being that removing one would be just as difficult as removing the other. Thus you need to figure out how to live with it being there - ergo, pointless to blame Jabbar on ISIS. His outcome is our problem.

Edited January 4, 2025 by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

Also more generally, it's really unclear why the American public should trust Elon Musk (who, incidentally, is also definitely not the power behind the throne we've been reliably told) with the power to *checks notes* prioritize what should and shouldn't be cut from government. 

What makes his input so special?

Edited January 4, 2025 by mtutiger

[pfife]

27 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

We have already debated this. They will give vets private healthcare. Medicaid would be an upgrade over VA services. lol thinking the idea is to cut off vets. 

Yeah I remember you losing that debate too and merely repeating it isn't going any better for you 

[pfife]

I'd imagine veterans are stoked about getting a surprise bill for the anesthesia for their preventive colonoscopy.   Just what they deserve for serving our country according to Elon, Da Vek,  and Magaholic

Edited January 4, 2025 by pfife

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

No, just making the point that you can't actually remove *any* kind of ideology or religion from the infosphere, the comparison being that removing one would be just as difficult as removing the other. Thus you need to figure out how to live with it being there - ergo, pointless to blame Jabbar on ISIS. His outcome is our problem.

Problems require solutions.... and if the last nine years have taught us anything, these guys don't have any of those.

Ergo blaming Jabbar on ISIS, or blaming illegal immigrants for crimes being committed by American citizens, etc.

[gehringer_2]

and just want to point out again that despite the confluence of these events, it's pretty clear Livelsberger wasn't trying to kill anyone but himself, because he certainly could have if he had wanted to instead of just creating a noisy show.

Edited January 4, 2025 by gehringer_2