Hongbit Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Less than 100 days until we kick off a brave new world of college football. Welcome to the 12 team playoff era. 5 automatic bids will come from the conference champions of the new Power 4 and the last will come from the highest rated team from the remaining little boy conferences. The CFP committee will rank and choose the 7 at large teams. Top 4 will get a 1st round bye with 5-12 playing at the home field of the higher ranked. The sites of the existing major bowls will host the quarter and semifinals. The championship game will be played this year in Atlanta on Jan 20. Welcome to Conference realignment as created by the death of the Pac-12: ACC adds Cal, Stanford, and SMU to go to 18 teams. Big 12 adds Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado and says goodbye to Texas and Oklahoma. They will have 16 teams. B1G adds USC, UCLA, Oregon and Washington to go to 18 SEC adds Texas and Oklahoma to go to 16 Welcome also to unlimited transfers and a still murky NIL and direct athlete payment plan that is still being figured out as they go. There is also uncertainty over the governing body as a powerless NCAA still technically controls the sport but it appears the CFP will make the most of the important decisions. I have no idea who enforces recruiting and practice time rules but does it really matter that much when players can transfer as many times as they want and still be immediately eligible. I do believe that you can only play for one team per season at least before the bowl games but who knows really knows. Also a few changes of the game between the lines including the addition of an NFL style two minute warning before both halves and moving to a NFL style moving clock after 1st downs except within two minuets. There will also be legal helmet communication between coach and dedicated player like in the pros. Sideline tablets will also finally make their appearance in college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 ESPN Early 2024 Rankings 1. Georgia 2. Ohio State 3. Texas 4. Oregon 5. Notre Dame 6. Ole Miss 7. Alabama 8. Mizzou 9. Utah 10. Michigan 11. Florida State 12. Penn State 13. NC State 14. LSU 15. Tennessee 16. Clemson 17. Kansas State 18. Oklaoma 19. Oklahoma State 20. Arizona 21. Virginia Tech 22. Kansas 23. Iowa 24. Miami 25. USC Just missed: Wisconsin, WVU, A&M, Louisville, Kentucky, Washington, Boise, Air Force, Liberty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 (edited) Part of the brave new world means embracing legalized sports gambling. Who needs polls when you have todays odds to win the natty: 1. Georgia +320 2. OSU +425 3. Texas +750 4. Oregon +850 5. Alabama +1400 6. Ole Miss +1600 7. LSU + 1800 8t. Michigan +2500 8t. FSU +2500 8t. ND + 2500 11. PSU + 2800 12t. Mizzou +3500 12t. Tennessee +3500 14t. A&M +4500 14t. Clemson +4500 16. Miami +5500 17t. Utah +6000 17t. OU +6000 19. USC +6500 20. K-State +7000 21t. Louisville +10000 21t. Auburn +10000 23. Washington +12000 24. Arizona +13000 25. NC State +15000 Edited June 1 by Hongbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 College football needs to die and be reborn. B1G + Miami, Stanford, Cal, and Notre Dame SEC + Florida State, Clemson, Virginia, Va Tech, UNC, and Duke Disband from the NCAA for football only. Let the other sports figure their own stuff out. Inertia will work itself out so that UCLA Golf and Oregon Tennis aren’t traveling to Happy Valley and Piscataway. 44 teams is a lot for a new pro sports league, but when you have teams like Rutgers, Illinois, and Vanderbilt amongst them, it’ll be okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Of all people, the other day Ted Cruz was talking about legislation to create new ground rules (apparently he played college ball?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) 44 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: College football needs to die and be reborn. I still don't get why people think fans of college football are going to stay interested when the players are all mercenaries with whatever little connection was still left to the University communities of their teams now completely severed. It's going to be minor league pro-football where the teams just happen to be named for US colleges. I suppose they'll find a way to make it fly but I sure don't have any interest left in it. Or lets put it this way - the base of support of college teams was once students and alums and the university community. If whatever it is you want to call what we have now thrives, it will be because it's embraced by the general (or possibly betting) public - I don't see school sponsored pro sport retaining all that much traction from inside the schools - at least most schools - that it grew up with. Edited June 1 by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: I still don't get why people think fans of college football are going to stay interested when the players are all mercenaries with whatever little connection was still left to the University communities of their teams now completely severed. It's going to be minor league pro-football where the teams just happen to be named for US colleges. I suppose they'll find a way to make it fly but I sure don't have any interest left in it. Or lets put it this way - the base of support of college teams was once students and alums and the university community. If whatever it is you want to call what we have now thrives, it will be because it's embraced by the general (or possibly betting) public - I don't see school sponsored pro sport retaining all that much traction from inside the schools - at least most schools - that it grew up with. As long as it's football, people will watch. It won't have the same allure as it did when it was Bo and Woody, or even Tressel and Carr. But that's been the case for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Of all people, the other day Ted Cruz was talking about legislation to create new ground rules (apparently he played college ball?). And was hit in the head a bit too often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 15 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: College football needs to die and be reborn. B1G + Miami, Stanford, Cal, and Notre Dame SEC + Florida State, Clemson, Virginia, Va Tech, UNC, and Duke Disband from the NCAA for football only. Let the other sports figure their own stuff out. Inertia will work itself out so that UCLA Golf and Oregon Tennis aren’t traveling to Happy Valley and Piscataway. 44 teams is a lot for a new pro sports league, but when you have teams like Rutgers, Illinois, and Vanderbilt amongst them, it’ll be okay. I think the separation of football conferencing from all other conferencing is a matter of when and not it. But I would guess its not going to be as clean and tidy as bringing the old conferences back to what they were. In other words, a revamped PAC10/12 might not be a reunion of all of the 10 or 12 teams that we remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, casimir said: I think the separation of football conferencing from all other conferencing is a matter of when and not it. This seems so obvious but I don't hear any of the people inside the system talking about it, which is depressing. Edited June 2 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 More than a few bands play that song. I think only LSU adds the vulgarity and I guarantee that part is not in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 Lots of schools have some type of offensive chant that students have woven into existing songs that their administration hates. USC has added “UCLA Sucks” into Fleetwood Mac’s Tusk. West Virginia has added “Eat **** Pitt” into Neil Diamond’s Sweet Caroline. But What LSU fans have done with Neck is a whole different level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 (edited) Something to keep an eye on. Edited June 2 by Hongbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 59 minutes ago, Deleterious said: More than a few bands play that song. I think only LSU adds the vulgarity and I guarantee that part is not in the game. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleterious Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 8 minutes ago, casimir said: Huh? There is a new NCAA Football game coming out for the first time in a decade. They were asking if the song Neck was going to be included in the game. LSU fans have added their own chant to the song. Very NSFW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Wow….. ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 Nothing like the above but also a bit NSFW but it’s hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 Michigan students should find a spot in Mr. Brightside dedicated to the Buckeyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 5 hours ago, casimir said: I think the separation of football conferencing from all other conferencing is a matter of when and not it. But I would guess its not going to be as clean and tidy as bringing the old conferences back to what they were. In other words, a revamped PAC10/12 might not be a reunion of all of the 10 or 12 teams that we remember. I agree. There are a lot of bruised egos and hurt feelings that will need time to heal, and it's not going to be snap of the fingers back to the PAC-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: This seems so obvious but I don't hear any of the people inside the system talking about it, which is depressing. I don't think they'll talk about it publicly, because I don't think the NCAA will like it. Anybody who can stand in the way of it happening won't know until it's a done deal, similar to how we didn't hear a peep about the USC/UCLA moves, and then overnight it was a done deal. They'll want to get the power players (Michigan, OSU, Alabama, USC, Georgia, Notre Dame, etc.) on the same page. Once that happens and the money is aligned in one direction, I expect it happens quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 4 Author Share Posted June 4 Via Joel Klatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: Via Joel Klatt cu-nebraska will play no role in shaping the 2024 season to anyone other than former colorado quarterback joel klatt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casimir Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 15 hours ago, Hongbit said: Via Joel Klatt Report: Lincoln Riley, USC Spent Two Years Trying to Get Out of Playing LSU in 2024 Quote In the moments following Oklahoma’s 37-33 loss to Oklahoma State in 2021, then-head coach Lincoln Riley was asked about the rumors that he might be linked to the LSU job. “I’m not going to be the next head coach at LSU,” he told the media in the postgame press conference. Then, as the story goes, Riley would accept the job at USC just a few hours later, and the rest is history. As it turns out, Riley was not only not willing to coach at LSU, but he also apparently didn’t want to play them. According to a report from Saturday Down South’s Matt Hayes, USC tried for nearly two years to avoid playing LSU in Las Vegas to open the 2024 season because Riley didn’t want to the game. There’s soft, then there is Charmin Ultra Soft, but USC’s head coach is teetering on an entirely new level here. The Trojans were trying as recently as last fall, per Hayes, to get out of the game and were even offering replacement opponents to the Tigers. He then says that FOX Sports even got involved at one point and tried to help dissolve the game, with ESPN having the rights to the game. “They weren’t getting out of the game,” a source told SDS. Hayes goes on to say that Riley asked his agent, Trace Armstrong, who also represents Brian Kelly, for help changing Kelly’s mind about the game. Both the Trojans and the Tigers are set to earn $5 million from the Las Vegas Bowl for playing in the game, but even an incentive of that size isn’t enough for Lincoln Riley to risk having his doors blown off by an SEC school again. So, the game—which was scheduled just months before Riley was hired—will go on as scheduled on September 1, 2024. LSU is currently favored by 6.5 points over USC in the neutral-site matchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 41 minutes ago, casimir said: Report: Lincoln Riley, USC Spent Two Years Trying to Get Out of Playing LSU in 2024 Of course they did. This coincides with the move to the B1G. Very foolish to play this game when you already have at Notre Dame on your OOS schedule and still have a B1G slate that includes at Michigan. They also first started this before even knowing what the full conference schedule would look like can you imagine if OSU or Oregon were part of the conference rotation. If the OL comes together, USC will surprise people this year. If not, it will be 7-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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