Trumps Presidency 2025

[GalagaGuy]

From a CNN article this morning..........

But the judge has not barred the Trump administration from deporting him to a third country, like Uganda, so long as officials do not violate his due process rights.

Just thought that was important to get out there since it seems that most people are spreading a lie that he was granted protection from deportation.  He was only protected from deportation to El Salvador.  Once that order was issued, the Biden administration decided to leave things alone.   That didn't mean he was suddenly here legally and allowed to stay forever. 

 

[chasfh]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

If US institutions ever do truly start to fail, we probably wouldn't get headlines like this, since the media would be in the bag for the regime to keep embarrassing and disheartening stories like this out of public view.

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Is that what Robert Kennedy Jr has?

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, GalagaGuy said:

From a CNN article this morning..........

But the judge has not barred the Trump administration from deporting him to a third country, like Uganda, so long as officials do not violate his due process rights.

Just thought that was important to get out there since it seems that most people are spreading a lie that he was granted protection from deportation.  He was only protected from deportation to El Salvador.  Once that order was issued, the Biden administration decided to leave things alone.   That didn't mean he was suddenly here legally and allowed to stay forever. 

 

The Nazis had the Madagascar plan where they would exile all the Jews in Europe to Madagascar. 

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

The Nazis had the Madagascar plan where they would exile all the Jews in Europe to Madagascar. 

So you think evicting a person who is in the USA illegally is no different than the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jewish people? 

[mtutiger]

CC: Jake Tapper

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

So you think evicting a person who is in the USA illegally is no different than the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jewish people? 

Evicting him to another continent than where he is from and likely to be in prison, yes. The nazis didn’t start with the ovens. 

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

CC: Jake Tapper

Guess that kissing the ring by Kristi Whitman didn’t work. 

[GalagaGuy]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

Evicting him to another continent than where he is from and likely to be in prison, yes. The nazis didn’t start with the ovens. 

Why would he be in prison in Uganda when a stipulation of the agreement between Uganda and the USA is that they wouldn't take anyone with a criminal record?  

I'll agree that it's a **** move to send someone to the other side of the globe but what that doesn't change the fact that he was ordered removed from the USA.   

[mtutiger]

 

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Why would he be in prison in Uganda when a stipulation of the agreement between Uganda and the USA is that they wouldn't take anyone with a criminal record?  

I'll agree that it's a **** move to send someone to the other side of the globe but what that doesn't change the fact that he was ordered removed from the USA.   

Since he doesn't have a criminal record, he should be given a path to citizenship. 

[GalagaGuy]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Since he doesn't have a criminal record, he should be given a path to citizenship. 

So we should reward him for entering the country illegally and not doing things the right way?  Additionally, based on the video I saw of the traffic stop where he was hauling a load of people up from the border, it is almost a certainty that he was taking part in human smuggling.  

[mtutiger]

As far as Kilmar Abrego Garcia is concerned, they said he couldn't be brought back from CECOT. And then he was brought back anyway to (ostensibly) stand for criminal charges. (ie. They lied, as per yoosh)

And when it apparently became evident they weren't going to be able to prosecute him on criminal charges, they pivoted to detaining him again and shipping him half way across the world. 

He's being treated this way for one reason and one reason only: because he embarrassed Dear Leader. There's no real defense to any of it IMO

Edited 6 hours ago by mtutiger

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, GalagaGuy said:

So we should reward him for entering the country illegally and not doing things the right way?  Additionally, based on the video I saw of the traffic stop where he was hauling a load of people up from the border, it is almost a certainty that he was taking part in human smuggling.  

If he was taking part in human smuggling and they had a case against him, the US would be convicting him for it. 

I just don't understand who benefits by deporting people because they didn't do it the right way. 

[GalagaGuy]

10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

If he was taking part in human smuggling and they had a case against him, the US would be convicting him for it. 

I just don't understand who benefits by deporting people because they didn't do it the right way. 

He was released from the traffic stop because when local cops contacted immigration, they either didn't have anyone to send or just didn't want to deal with it.  That doesn't mean he's innocent of the crimes he's now being charged with, does it? 

What do you think would happen if word got out that you could come to the USA illegally and that if you got caught, they would just let you stay and put you on the path to citizenship?   How are you not advocating for an open border policy by saying that? 

[pfife]

29 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

Why would he be in prison in Uganda when a stipulation of the agreement between Uganda and the USA is that they wouldn't take anyone with a criminal record?  

I'll agree that it's a **** move to send someone to the other side of the globe but what that doesn't change the fact that he was ordered removed from the USA.   

Youve claimed multiple times he has a criminal record. 

[mtutiger]

Watching clips of Trump as this press availability is going on.... not to take away from the seriousness of it, but what a ****ing pathetic embarrassment he is.

Edited 6 hours ago by mtutiger

[GalagaGuy]

1 minute ago, pfife said:

Youve claimed multiple times he has a criminal record. 

I've never claimed he has a criminal record.   I've said that based on the evidence I've seen, he was engaging in human trafficking.   

I already see what your next comment is going to be and yes, it is stupid to be saying you're going to send him to a country who only agreed to take people without a criminal history while at the same time charging him with crimes.  

[Tiger337]

21 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I just don't understand who benefits by deporting people because they didn't do it the right way. 

I don't see a benefit either.  One obvious negative is that it's a waste of resources.  

[mtutiger]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

I don't see a benefit either.  One obvious negative is that it's a waste of resources.  

I said it in the post above, but this government *brought him back* to indict him on criminal charges that they likely knew wouldn't stick. And now are having to deport him *again* to a country even further away.

It's a tremendous waste of resources, but somehow Kilmar Abrego Garcia is the bad guy in all of this? SMH

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

18 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

He was released from the traffic stop because when local cops contacted immigration, they either didn't have anyone to send or just didn't want to deal with it.  That doesn't mean he's innocent of the crimes he's now being charged with, does it? 

What do you think would happen if word got out that you could come to the USA illegally and that if you got caught, they would just let you stay and put you on the path to citizenship?   How are you not advocating for an open border policy by saying that? 

As long as the US provides better economic conditions and a better quality of life, the immigrants are going to keep coming. Trump is doing his best to make sure that isn't happening. With America's aging population and slowed birth rates, giving people paths to citizenship isn't a bad thing. 

[pfife]

16 minutes ago, GalagaGuy said:

I've never claimed he has a criminal record.   I've said that based on the evidence I've seen, he was engaging in human trafficking.   

I already see what your next comment is going to be and yes, it is stupid to be saying you're going to send him to a country who only agreed to take people without a criminal history while at the same time charging him with crimes.  

Lol

You dont know what my next post is going to be

[Motown Bombers]

Tim Walz is going off.

 

[mtutiger]

8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

With America's aging population and slowed birth rates, giving people paths to citizenship isn't a bad thing. 

Again gets to why this problem never gets solved: because we can't agree on what the problem is.

The process for legally immigrating to this country has been badly broken for years, and it is part of the reason that we find ourselves where we are currently. Somehow this gets lost in all the punitive focus on "they did it the right way" or whatever.

Of course, none of what is happening is about illegal immigration really, because as far as the guy running Trump's immigration policy is concerned (ie. Stephen Miller), pretty much all immigration is bad. Particularly for those immigrating who don't share his same level of melanin.

Edited 6 hours ago by mtutiger