Deleterious Posted September 3 Author Posted September 3 Watching it live was painful. Watching him try to justify it was even worse. You lost over 20 seconds on the first play alone by not using one of your two TO's. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 3 Posted September 3 10 minutes ago, Deleterious said: If my two options are, my conference no longer exists, or I get in bed with Dave Portnoy? Well, last one out, turn off the lights. For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? they seem intent on trying to turn college football into another USFL. I know enough to always discount my own taste when it comes what is likely to be successful in the market but I can't help thinking how little I care about Michigan Football today, and in terms of ties to the University, I bleed about as blue as anyone has a right to. Quote
buddha Posted September 4 Posted September 4 55 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? they seem intent on trying to turn college football into another USFL. I know enough to always discount my own taste when it comes what is likely to be successful in the market but I can't help thinking how little I care about Michigan Football today, and in terms of ties to the University, I bleed about as blue as anyone has a right to. i thought about what you wrote when i read a piece on a new york times' piece about a lady taking her dream trip to disney and spending 1/10th of her annual income to do it. ruining the thing that made you great so you can squeeze extra profit out of it and at the same time make it only the experience of the wealthy elite. Quote
buddha Posted September 4 Posted September 4 this is the byproduct of paying the players. its now professional sports and is treating its customers like pro sports fans. i'm old enough to remember when michigan-osu tickets were all the same price...and the same price as michigan-northwestern. sigh. i'm going to go outside now and shake my fist at this passing cloud. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) 48 minutes ago, buddha said: this is the byproduct of paying the players. its now professional sports and is treating its customers like pro sports fans. i'm old enough to remember when michigan-osu tickets were all the same price...and the same price as michigan-northwestern. sigh. i'm going to go outside now and shake my fist at this passing cloud. And you probably don't want to be this old: My first student season pass to Michigan football was $21. Seven games. And as seniors we were sitting at the 45yd line because that was when the university still thought that college students should get the best seats at a college football game. Edited September 4 by gehringer_2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) It's a symptom of a larger culture that no longer understands the value of anything beyond money. It's funny (or maybe not) that in all kinds of international cultural survey work, the US always ranks as the most religious 1st world country, yet as a nation we are completely bereft of any sense of transcendent values. Draw what conclusions you may from that contradiction. Edited September 4 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
Deleterious Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 I realize he probably won't be there that long. But this is a great way to turn future recruits off to your program. Quote
Deleterious Posted September 9 Author Posted September 9 Nothing like a conference game kicking off at 11PM. Quote
romad1 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 26 minutes ago, Deleterious said: Nothing like a conference game kicking off at 11PM. wow...that's not Big Noon. 1 Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted September 9 Posted September 9 Those 11pm starts are the same thing that doomed the PAC-12. You’ll never win a Heisman or get a deciding playoff vote so long as no one is watching your games. Quote
buddha Posted September 9 Posted September 9 the big ten needs programming from noon to midnight on saturday. Quote
buddha Posted September 10 Posted September 10 16.6 million for ohio state texas last week. 9.6 million for michigan oklahoma. both of those are huge numbers for regular season games. osu texas is the biggest week 1 numbers ever, i think. imagine what the ratings will be when the sec and big ten break away and there are marquee matchups like these every week? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, buddha said: 16.6 million for ohio state texas last week. 9.6 million for michigan oklahoma. both of those are huge numbers for regular season games. osu texas is the biggest week 1 numbers ever, i think. imagine what the ratings will be when the sec and big ten break away and there are marquee matchups like these every week? It might not be as rosy as all that - at least after the 1st year or two when the novelty wears off, because if they break away and only have each other to play, then half of those teams are going to have losing records. The fact that now the good teams pump up their records playing cupcakes is what allows there to be so many marquee teams. Put them in a league all by themselves, and you'll have a lot fewer match-ups between teams with winning records. Twenty teams can be the elite of 120+, only a smaller number can be the elite of 30. I have a feeling that is one of the reasons it hasn't happened yet. Edited September 10 by gehringer_2 Quote
buddha Posted September 10 Posted September 10 56 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: It might not be as rosy as all that - at least after the 1st year or two when the novelty wears off, because if they break away and only have each other to play, then half of those teams are going to have losing records. The fact that now the good teams pump up their records playing cupcakes is what allows there to be so many marquee teams. Put them in a league all by themselves, and you'll have a lot fewer match-ups between teams with winning records. Twenty teams can be the elite of 120+, only a smaller number can be the elite of 30. I have a feeling that is one of the reasons it hasn't happened yet. it hasnt happened yet because breaking away from the ncaa is hard. the money is there. television has taken it over, its just a matter of time before they succomb to the sweet lure of saudi funded PC money. christ, theyre going to be playing more games in a season than the nfl soon! its absolutely crazy. people watch arizona vs carolina in the nfl, people will watch ole miss v michigan state in cfb. and they will never tire of georgia-michigan, texas-penn state, usc-alabama, and ohio state-florida. just like they never tire of bears-packers, giants-cowboys, raiders-broncos, etc. what will die is temple v northern illinois. or, games like that will return to the small time sport it was before all of this happened. i do wonder what happens to college basketball. if it stays under the ncaa rubric, or if they take that with them too. unlike college football, college basketball's huge draw is the tournament, and part of that draw is the little guy pulling the upset. so they might keep that and just break football away. we'll see. Quote
romad1 Posted September 10 Posted September 10 16 hours ago, buddha said: the big ten needs programming from noon to midnight on saturday. In terms of territorial acquisition you could make a case that the B1G was the dominant military force of the 21st Century. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted September 10 Posted September 10 11 hours ago, buddha said: it hasnt happened yet because breaking away from the ncaa is hard. the money is there. television has taken it over, its just a matter of time before they succomb to the sweet lure of saudi funded PC money. christ, theyre going to be playing more games in a season than the nfl soon! its absolutely crazy. people watch arizona vs carolina in the nfl, people will watch ole miss v michigan state in cfb. and they will never tire of georgia-michigan, texas-penn state, usc-alabama, and ohio state-florida. just like they never tire of bears-packers, giants-cowboys, raiders-broncos, etc. what will die is temple v northern illinois. or, games like that will return to the small time sport it was before all of this happened. i do wonder what happens to college basketball. if it stays under the ncaa rubric, or if they take that with them too. unlike college football, college basketball's huge draw is the tournament, and part of that draw is the little guy pulling the upset. so they might keep that and just break football away. we'll see. I think college basketball will remain with NCAA and college football will become it's own entity. It is inevitable, and I agree, probably for the best at this point. Sure, Toledo beats Miss St or Purdue every once in awhile, but watching Toledo against the Buckeyes is just stupid at this point. At this point it is a waste of time for everyone involved, I get the small schools get big payouts that help fund their athletic departments, but for the actual team it is so stupid. It is risking the health of your players before they go into conference schedule. **Yes, I remember Toledo beat Michigan at the big house almost 20 years ago (20 years already????) but, does anyone think that could happen again? Quote
buddha Posted September 10 Posted September 10 1 hour ago, RedTeamGo! said: I think college basketball will remain with NCAA and college football will become it's own entity. It is inevitable, and I agree, probably for the best at this point. Sure, Toledo beats Miss St or Purdue every once in awhile, but watching Toledo against the Buckeyes is just stupid at this point. At this point it is a waste of time for everyone involved, I get the small schools get big payouts that help fund their athletic departments, but for the actual team it is so stupid. It is risking the health of your players before they go into conference schedule. **Yes, I remember Toledo beat Michigan at the big house almost 20 years ago (20 years already????) but, does anyone think that could happen again? if michigan makes another stupid coaching hire - and remember, they lucked into jim harbaugh - it could definitely happen. lol. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 14 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: I think college basketball will remain with NCAA and college football will become it's own entity. It is inevitable, and I agree, probably for the best at this point. Seems reasonable, but it's going to be confusing to sort out because you are still going to have all the schools left out of whatever becomes the new power league that are likely still going to play football. Does it all go Ivy league form with true amateurs again? Is that even possible? Can you imagine football as a club sport? Well, maybe flag. I guess I would need to read more than I am interested to but what does become of the teams/leagues like the Ivy league that have already opted out of the current system? Are they exempt from the House settlement terms? Quote
romad1 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 So, to address the comments that Bryce Underwood is a flight risk. Was his position on the team not secured by the intervention of the wife of the richest man in the World? I guess if another oligarch is a fan a different CFB team, its possible. 1 Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted September 11 Posted September 11 8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Seems reasonable, but it's going to be confusing to sort out because you are still going to have all the schools left out of whatever becomes the new power league that are likely still going to play football. Does it all go Ivy league form with true amateurs again? Is that even possible? Can you imagine football as a club sport? Well, maybe flag. I guess I would need to read more than I am interested to but what does become of the teams/leagues like the Ivy league that have already opted out of the current system? Are they exempt from the House settlement terms? Football actually already is a club sport at most univerisites Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: Football actually already is a club sport at most univerisites I still wonder - so much of the discussion around the House settlement and all the changes is from the perspective of the top teams in the power conferences. Can a MAC team like Todedo or EMU play in that game at all without massive support from their school's general fund? I just haven't heard much about what kind of options exist for teams that can't blythely pony up $20M for player salaries. Edited September 11 by gehringer_2 Quote
Deleterious Posted September 11 Author Posted September 11 CFB is the perfect American sport for a regulation system. Such a shame they will never do it. Quote
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