2025 NCAA Football Thread

[casimir]

On 11/9/2025 at 9:04 PM, buddha said:

america doesnt do promotion/relegation.  we do guaranteed profits.

promotion/relegation is amazing.  it actually gives you consequences for losing!   unlike american sports, which rewards you for failure with the ability to bring in the most talented players the next season.  you all complain about tanking but none of you are willing to do the one thing that would end it: relegation.  so keep whining about europe and soccer.  they got it right.

the top 40 college football programs could definitely start their own league and the ratings would be amazing.

that's why this is a great deal if youre purdue/northwestern/iowa etc.  you know that ohio state and penn state are desperate for cash right now.  what better time to lock them into a grant of rights deal than now?  what better way to make sure they dont leave by dangling a sweet $190 million in front of them now?  its brilliant timing by pettiti and company, selling out the future at the perfect time when your big brand names are struggling in the new environment.

michigan is pretending to be ethical and usc is pretending its still an elite program.  they'll both cave.  michigan ALWAYS caves.

the one real impediment would be the law.

The thing with promotion/relegation that gets me is basing competitive grouping and/or playoff odds on the previous season’s standings.  That doesn’t compute to me.

I don’t know if this is a decent analogy or not.  But it’d be like taking last season’s group of five or six or whatever college playoff entry and bumping them into a power conference while knocking out a team from the conference in to the MAC or CUSA or wherever that promoted team came from.  That’s silly to me.

[buddha]

2 minutes ago, casimir said:

The thing with promotion/relegation that gets me is basing competitive grouping and/or playoff odds on the previous season’s standings.  That doesn’t compute to me.

I don’t know if this is a decent analogy or not.  But it’d be like taking last season’s group of five or six or whatever college playoff entry and bumping them into a power conference while knocking out a team from the conference in to the MAC or CUSA or wherever that promoted team came from.  That’s silly to me.

there is no "playoffs" in those sports, that's an american invention.  in europe, the regular season decides the champion.  if you win, you get rewarded by being in an extra competition just for champions the next year.  

the champions league/copa libertadores, etc is a separate competition from the domestic league.  america only has one league and one competition (which devalues the regular season and essentially turns it into an exhibition before the "playoffs" which actually decide the champion).

in europe, you actually get rewarded for winning the competition.  and - like i said before - punished for being bad.

they both have their pros and cons.  but europe is much more likely to see the major clubs form a us style competition w/o relegation than america is to ever doing the euro style thing.  it makes no sense foe current stakeholders in us sports to give up their guaranteed profits.

europe almost did it a few years ago but the fan backlash was so great almost all the big clubs abandoned it (except madrid).

[Deleterious]

Did you wrap yourself in the tricolor before making that post?

[buddha]

1 minute ago, Deleterious said:

Did you wrap yourself in the tricolor before making that post?

i am wearing my "liberte egalite fraternite" shirt, why do you ask?

[Deleterious]

2 minutes ago, buddha said:

i am wearing my "liberte egalite fraternite" shirt, why do you ask?

Stop making me Google stuff.