Have You Done The Needful?

[romad1]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm surprised how well the boycott of Target has worked. They have been in decline ever since they gave in to Trump. 

I'm all in favor of that. 

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Isn’t one of the anti-Christ’s talents supposed to be getting unaware Christians to follow him? Isn’t that what the fable says?

 No, it’s to convince them he doesn’t exist.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

 No, it’s to convince them he doesn’t exist.

That’s not how Matthew 24:24 reads.

[CMRivdogs]

12 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That’s not how Matthew 24:24 reads.

A lot of those False Prophets around today. Especially proponents of posting the 10 Commandments but ignore the Beatitudes

[gehringer_2]

17 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

A lot of those False Prophets around today. Especially proponents of posting the 10 Commandments but ignore the Beatitudes

I find the fascination with the 10 words so odd in groups of people that never come close to at least 4 of them.

[guy incognito]

38 minutes ago, chasfh said:

That’s not how Matthew 24:24 reads.

He’s thinking of The Usual Suspects.

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

A lot of those False Prophets around today. Especially proponents of posting the 10 Commandments but ignore the Beatitudes

That passage is specifically interpreted in evangelical circles as contemplating the danger that Christians ("the elect") will be misled by the Antichrist. Those who deny that meaning, though they profess Christianity, do not know Christianity. 

[Tigeraholic1]

23 hours ago, chasfh said:

That’s not how Matthew 24:24 reads.

You are now an atheist right? 

[oblong]

People that support the current admin don’t get to lecture or try to educate others about the Bible.  That’s not how it works anymore. They lost that right with 45/47. They’ve proven their doctrine invalid 

[CMRivdogs]

The Righteous Right only pick out parts of the Bible they agree with

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You are now an atheist right? 

Oh, are we talking about me now? Am I the topic of conversation now? Are we no longer talking about what Matthew 24:24 says about false Christs? Just want to make sure before I answer the same question you just asked that I answered when you asked it just a few weeks ago.

[gehringer_2]

4 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You are now an atheist right? 

and beyond the irrelevance of the question, if what he means to imply is that an atheist can't be deeply educated in religious and biblical study, that would also be quite false.

[CMRivdogs]

For the record I came from a Presbyterian/Church of the Brethren background. At 73 my leanings are more toward Diest. I still worship a Supreme being but what I see being taught in "Conservative" Political Circles are not what they taught me in Sunday School

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

Oh, are we talking about me now? Am I the topic of conversation now? Are we no longer talking about what Matthew 24:24 says about false Christs? Just want to make sure before I answer the same question you just asked that I answered when you asked it just a few weeks ago.

Hit a nerve.

[Tigeraholic1]

43 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

and beyond the irrelevance of the question, if what he means to imply is that an atheist can't be deeply educated in religious and biblical study, that would also be quite false.

Atheist always think they are smarter than the Bible. Its a religion in itself. 

[gehringer_2]

23 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Atheist always think they are smarter than the Bible. Its a religion in itself. 

Aside from the fact that 'the Bible' is a book, not a sentient entity and thus not capable of 'smartness', the statement "Atheism is a Religion" is  foolishness. An atheist may believe any number of things are true that may or may not be true, and he may hold some of those beliefs in dogmatic fashion, but he does not believe it is true that God exists, so whatever you call his belief system, it is by definition not religion. And English is certainly a rich enough language that that kind of inarticulateness is unnecessary. cf:

re·li·gion:

/rəˈlij(ə)n/

noun

the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.

 

Edited Sunday at 08:58 PM by gehringer_2

[romad1]

26 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Aside from the fact that 'the Bible' is a book, not a sentient entity and thus not capable of 'smartness', the statement "Atheism is a Religion" is  foolishness. An atheist may believe any number of things are true that may or may not be true, and he may hold some of those beliefs in dogmatic fashion, but he does not believe it is true that God exists, so whatever you call his belief system, it is by definition not religion. And English is certainly a rich enough language that that kind of inarticulateness is unnecessary. cf:

re·li·gion:

/rəˈlij(ə)n/

noun

the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.

 

What it is is a cosmology.  Cosmology can include religion.  

 

[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Atheist always think they are smarter than the Bible. Its a religion in itself. 

You are showing for all to see here...

Your abject...

Ignorance.

[VegasTiger]

Atheism is a religion like not playing baseball is a sport.

[chasfh]

17 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Hit a nerve.

Again, why are you making this about me and continuing to avoid the topic of the meaning of Matthew 24:24? You’re avoiding it for a reason.

[Tigeraholic1]

17 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

 An atheist may believe any number of things are true that may or may not be true, and he may hold some of those beliefs in dogmatic fashion,

 

 

My point.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

My point.

doesn't make it a religion. 

What's actually funny about people who claim to be religious trying to dismiss atheists as being 'just as religious' about it, etc., is that it's implicitly pejorative of themselves.

[Tigeraholic1]

10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

doesn't make it a religion. 

What's actually funny about people who claim to be religious trying to dismiss atheists as being 'just as religious' about it, etc., is that it's implicitly pejorative of themselves.

Religion is based on a beliefs system with pillars of why. Same as Atheism. Like I told 84 everyone is free to think whatever they want not saying religion is right or wrong either. Atheist have faith in science, some of it unproven. They will stand behind it and get angry if you challenge them just like a person of religion.

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Atheist have faith in science, some of it unproven

You assume way too much here. An atheist may or may not be a devotee of science. There are thousands reasons someone may or may not believe in God; being of a Scientific bent is only one and it isn't even particularly determinative. I know many religious scientific people and of we course we know many of the greatest minds in the history of science believed in God (e.g. Einstein). In my experience it's not Science that makes most atheists. Most people I know that don't believe in God have come to the conclusion from looking around at a world they believe is too f'd up to believe anybody is running it - no science required.

[ewsieg]

On 11/30/2025 at 12:04 PM, CMRivdogs said:

The Righteous Right only pick out parts of the Bible they agree with

Exactly, it's like the left and Science.