Will Tigers Pony up for Skubal

[Sports_Freak]

14 hours ago, buddha said:

then why do they do it in the nba and nhl?

I'm talking about MLB, Boras and Skubal. Tampering isn't something that's done by GMs and agents. GMs are fired or quit every year. To trust none of them will ever talk is very naive. An agent like Boras would put 100's of millions of dollars at risk for very, very little gain. If Skubal signs a $400m contract, Boras would make $40m at 10%. Bump that contract up to 440m by tampering and he would make $4m extra at 10%. He's not going to risk all the money he makes from other players for a measly $4 million bucks. Speculating that there are secret talks or hidden handshake deals is just that, speculation. If there was any proof, Boras would lose every player under contract or future free agent contracts. I'm telling ya, it's just not worth it. Now if someone were to say that Boras is unethical, I would agree. Taking a free agent's offer and shopping it around may be allowed but IMO, it's very unethical.

[casimir]

On 11/14/2025 at 3:24 PM, RatkoVarda said:

Boras to Cohen: Steve, next Winter I look forward to discussing Tarik's free agency with you and the Mets. Obviously, it would not be appropriate to discuss any terms while he is under control of the Tigers, but he did mention that he loves coming to NY for award season, and getting bagels at his favorite store at 440 10th Avenue. That's 440 and 10, Steve. If you are interested, go to 440 and 10, Steve.

Damn, you win the week.  It’s a real address for a real deli and they have bagels.

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[1984Echoes]

5 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

... Now if someone were to say that Boras is unethical, I would agree. Taking a free agent's offer and shopping it around may be allowed but IMO, it's very unethical.

How is that unethical?

That's the very definition of his JOB.

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

How is that unethical?

That's the very definition of his JOB.

It could be both!

[chasfh]

19 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

I'm talking about MLB, Boras and Skubal. Tampering isn't something that's done by GMs and agents. GMs are fired or quit every year. To trust none of them will ever talk is very naive. An agent like Boras would put 100's of millions of dollars at risk for very, very little gain. If Skubal signs a $400m contract, Boras would make $40m at 10%. Bump that contract up to 440m by tampering and he would make $4m extra at 10%. He's not going to risk all the money he makes from other players for a measly $4 million bucks. Speculating that there are secret talks or hidden handshake deals is just that, speculation. If there was any proof, Boras would lose every player under contract or future free agent contracts. I'm telling ya, it's just not worth it. Now if someone were to say that Boras is unethical, I would agree. Taking a free agent's offer and shopping it around may be allowed but IMO, it's very unethical.

How would backchannel discussions of the type we’re speculating on lose Boras every player under contract or future free agent contracts? Meaning, how would that work in practice? Can you help me understand by providing a hypothetical to explain your hypothesis? Boras uses back channel to talk to team about signing player already under contract elsewhere, someone finds out … then what?

Edited yesterday at 01:34 PM by chasfh

[Sports_Freak]

7 hours ago, chasfh said:

How would backchannel discussions of the type we’re speculating on lose Boras every player under contract or future free agent contracts? Meaning, how would that work in practice? Can you help me understand by providing a hypothetical to explain your hypothesis? Boras uses back channel to talk to team about signing player already under contract elsewhere, someone finds out … then what?

Someone finds out after a GM gets fired and is bitter. An agent like Boras, for example, makes millions of dollars a year. That could all be in jeopardy for very little gain. Think about it, everyone already knows the ballpark figure it will take to sign Skubal. If he were to shop him while he's still under contract, he may make a few extra million. But he would be exposing himself to being suspended from being an agent in future damesls;

 

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said:

Someone finds out after a GM gets fired and is bitter. An agent like Boras, for example, makes millions of dollars a year. That could all be in jeopardy for very little gain. Think about it, everyone already knows the ballpark figure it will take to sign Skubal. If he were to shop him while he's still under contract, he may make a few extra million. But he would be exposing himself to being suspended from being an agent in future damesls;

 

In your example, a GM gets fired, he's bitter, Boras makes millions per year, and ... then what? That's where your hypothetical ends.

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

In your example, a GM gets fired, he's bitter, Boras makes millions per year, and ... then what? That's where your hypothetical ends.

Ok...Boras shops around players under contract. They all do it. Cheat steal and lie. That makes sense to you?

[TigerNation]

7 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Someone finds out after a GM gets fired and is bitter. An agent like Boras, for example, makes millions of dollars a year. That could all be in jeopardy for very little gain. Think about it, everyone already knows the ballpark figure it will take to sign Skubal. If he were to shop him while he's still under contract, he may make a few extra million. But he would be exposing himself to being suspended from being an agent in future damesls;

 

You realize all Boras has to do is ask a question about the what contract terms a team might offer to a hypothetical player with similar stats to Skubal and it's not tampering, right?

[chasfh]

15 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Ok...Boras shops around players under contract. They all do it. Cheat steal and lie. That makes sense to you?

And there's no punishment for him doing it. And that's that.

Neither you nor I can envision how he would get disciplined for it, so I'm having trouble seeing what the problem is.

Besides, didn’t you say on the page before this that tampering isn't something that's done by GMs and agents? Isn’t that how this whole sidebar started?

Edited 3 hours ago by chasfh

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, chasfh said:

And there's no punishment for him doing it. And that's that.

Neither you nor I can envision how he would get disciplined for it, so I'm having trouble seeing what the problem is.

Besides, didn’t you say on the page before this that tampering isn't something that's done by GMs and agents? Isn’t that how this whole sidebar started?

No, you're right. Every agent shops players under contract around to all the teams that spend big. Nobody follows the rules and everybody cheats. Does that make sense to you? SMH