Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM 14 hours ago, buddha said: then why do they do it in the nba and nhl? I'm talking about MLB, Boras and Skubal. Tampering isn't something that's done by GMs and agents. GMs are fired or quit every year. To trust none of them will ever talk is very naive. An agent like Boras would put 100's of millions of dollars at risk for very, very little gain. If Skubal signs a $400m contract, Boras would make $40m at 10%. Bump that contract up to 440m by tampering and he would make $4m extra at 10%. He's not going to risk all the money he makes from other players for a measly $4 million bucks. Speculating that there are secret talks or hidden handshake deals is just that, speculation. If there was any proof, Boras would lose every player under contract or future free agent contracts. I'm telling ya, it's just not worth it. Now if someone were to say that Boras is unethical, I would agree. Taking a free agent's offer and shopping it around may be allowed but IMO, it's very unethical. Quote
casimir Posted Saturday at 09:22 PM Posted Saturday at 09:22 PM On 11/14/2025 at 3:24 PM, RatkoVarda said: Boras to Cohen: Steve, next Winter I look forward to discussing Tarik's free agency with you and the Mets. Obviously, it would not be appropriate to discuss any terms while he is under control of the Tigers, but he did mention that he loves coming to NY for award season, and getting bagels at his favorite store at 440 10th Avenue. That's 440 and 10, Steve. If you are interested, go to 440 and 10, Steve. Damn, you win the week. It’s a real address for a real deli and they have bagels. https://heavenlymarketnyc.com/ 1 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 10:47 PM Posted Saturday at 10:47 PM 5 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: ... Now if someone were to say that Boras is unethical, I would agree. Taking a free agent's offer and shopping it around may be allowed but IMO, it's very unethical. How is that unethical? That's the very definition of his JOB. Quote
Tiger337 Posted yesterday at 01:57 AM Posted yesterday at 01:57 AM 3 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: How is that unethical? That's the very definition of his JOB. It could be both! Quote
chasfh Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 19 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: I'm talking about MLB, Boras and Skubal. Tampering isn't something that's done by GMs and agents. GMs are fired or quit every year. To trust none of them will ever talk is very naive. An agent like Boras would put 100's of millions of dollars at risk for very, very little gain. If Skubal signs a $400m contract, Boras would make $40m at 10%. Bump that contract up to 440m by tampering and he would make $4m extra at 10%. He's not going to risk all the money he makes from other players for a measly $4 million bucks. Speculating that there are secret talks or hidden handshake deals is just that, speculation. If there was any proof, Boras would lose every player under contract or future free agent contracts. I'm telling ya, it's just not worth it. Now if someone were to say that Boras is unethical, I would agree. Taking a free agent's offer and shopping it around may be allowed but IMO, it's very unethical. How would backchannel discussions of the type we’re speculating on lose Boras every player under contract or future free agent contracts? Meaning, how would that work in practice? Can you help me understand by providing a hypothetical to explain your hypothesis? Boras uses back channel to talk to team about signing player already under contract elsewhere, someone finds out … then what? Edited 14 hours ago by chasfh Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 hours ago, chasfh said: How would backchannel discussions of the type we’re speculating on lose Boras every player under contract or future free agent contracts? Meaning, how would that work in practice? Can you help me understand by providing a hypothetical to explain your hypothesis? Boras uses back channel to talk to team about signing player already under contract elsewhere, someone finds out … then what? Someone finds out after a GM gets fired and is bitter. An agent like Boras, for example, makes millions of dollars a year. That could all be in jeopardy for very little gain. Think about it, everyone already knows the ballpark figure it will take to sign Skubal. If he were to shop him while he's still under contract, he may make a few extra million. But he would be exposing himself to being suspended from being an agent in future damesls; Quote
chasfh Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: Someone finds out after a GM gets fired and is bitter. An agent like Boras, for example, makes millions of dollars a year. That could all be in jeopardy for very little gain. Think about it, everyone already knows the ballpark figure it will take to sign Skubal. If he were to shop him while he's still under contract, he may make a few extra million. But he would be exposing himself to being suspended from being an agent in future damesls; In your example, a GM gets fired, he's bitter, Boras makes millions per year, and ... then what? That's where your hypothetical ends. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, chasfh said: In your example, a GM gets fired, he's bitter, Boras makes millions per year, and ... then what? That's where your hypothetical ends. Ok...Boras shops around players under contract. They all do it. Cheat steal and lie. That makes sense to you? Quote
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