2025 MLB Trading Deadline

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Scott brought Kahnle in. I don't see him releasing him. Hanifee? Hurter, who I like and think we need.

Do you think Harris is likely to keep Kahnle to save face even if we have better options in-house?

[kdog]

I suspect the bullpen guys they brought in are to replace guys like Kahnle, who has been awful for a few months.

They may not have upside but can't be worse than him.

[RatkoVarda]

19 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

agree - trust Harris and Greenberg. On the Foul Territory podcast last eve, Cody said he spoke with several other gms and he got feedback from multiple people that Harris is difficult to deal with, too hard line. That is probably an area Harris needs to grow into.

hard pass on that.

you know who people liked dealing with? Idiot trader Al Avila. One reason Harris is not well liked is that he has literally won almost every Tigers trade he has made, and people are pissed he did not settle for less, or will not give up prospects who  other teams really want.

[tiger2022]

12 hours ago, Hinchman11 said:

This is an extremely young team and I am ok not parting with minor league prospects/depth for 12 weeks os Suarez or a year and 12 weeks of Bendar, who was trash last season.

isn’t that the point of depth? Tork should have been in Toledo and Baez would have never played center if it weren’t for injuries or regression. And so what if Baez or McKinstry regress, you still haven’t mortgaged your depth by keeping your prospects. Teams paid significantly this year and none of these would have guaranteed anything.

 

 

 

 

Tork was always going to be the 1st baseman.  There was no way any mlb team would ever go into the season with Colt Keith as their starting 1st baseman.  Never in any rational universe.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, sagnam said:

I would prefer they trade minor leaguers for proven MLB talent, but I have no idea how to evaluate or develop young talent. I do know that this leadership has in all likelihood gotten the Tigers into the playoffs in consecutive years. That’s not something I would have expected a couple years ago.

It occurs to me that when a team acquires talent because it is “proven”, they are by definition looking backward and not forward. They are paying for past performance and not future results, and as we know from investing caveats, the former is not indicative of the latter.

I’m glad the GM/PBO of the team I follow most does not invest based mainly on past performance.

[chasfh]

9 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

Imagine, 10+ years of Clark, McGonigle, Greene and Tork at the top of the lineup? 

If they make it that far and productively, in ten years, those four might cost something close to $200 million a season just by themselves.

[chasfh]

8 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

but they didn't trade him - maybe they know what they had.

All I know is that Alex Faedo, Matt Manning, Beau Burrows and Joey Wentz are going to round out a dominant starting rotation anchored by Casey Mize! They are going to have to move Wilmer Flores to the bullpen because there is no room!

And with Isaac Paredes, Willi Castro, Daz Cameron, Christin Stewart, and Parker Meadows anchoring our lineup, Al Avila has positioned us for a slew of pennants!

[tiger2022]

9 hours ago, Cruzer1 said:

Recently, Eric Longenhagen kind of sheepishly compared McGonigle to Rogers Hornsby. He, Clark and Briceno are still 20 years old. That's fun.

.358 avg, 301 HR, 1.010 OPS, 127.3 WAR, 9th all time for batters.

McGonigle would be the greatest player, other than Bonds, of the last 50 years.

Never heard of Eric Longehagen, but just from that comparison, the guy must be a bleeping idiot.

 

Edited 20 hours ago by tiger2022

[chasfh]

40 minutes ago, papalawrence said:

I agree - trust Harris and Greenberg. On the Foul Territory podcast last eve, Cody said he spoke with several other gms and he got feedback from multiple people that Harris is difficult to deal with, too hard line. That is probably an area Harris needs to grow into.

I’m sure Harris growing into someone who’s easy to deal with would please the several other GMs. My question is, is that something we really need?

Edited 20 hours ago by chasfh

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35 minutes ago, kdog said:

DBacks and Orioles are examples of well intentioned front offices who had this same objective and crap happened.

Yes, I did forget to mention the Diamondbacks.

Well, if “crap happens”, you know whom to blame.

[romad1]

21 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’m sure Harris growing into someone who’s easy to deal with would please the several other GMs. My question is, is that something we really need?

Randy Smith was pretty easy to deal with. 

[Tiger337]

20 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I’m sure Harris growing into someone who’s easy to deal with would please the several other GMs. My question is, is that something we really need?

If he really is hard to deal with, that might not be a good thing.  If other teams started to avoid him on the assumption that it was impossible to get a deal done, the Tigers might miss out on opportunities to make good deals.  I am not saying that is happening, just saying that being hard to deal with is not necessarily a good quality.  

[oblong]

difficult to deal with could mean a lot of things.  

 

[tiger2022]

You have to give up something to get something back.  I would suspect that the majority of GMs like it when the deal is fairly even and works for both teams.  That way you get a reputation as being fair.

I'd much rather deal with someone like that than a guy who is always screwing people over. 

But you also don't want to be like Avila, some pathetic schmuck way over his head trading quality players for spare parts and awful prospects just to say you made a trade.

Edited 19 hours ago by tiger2022

[romad1]

8 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

If he really is hard to deal with, that might not be a good thing.  If other teams started to avoid him on the assumption that it was impossible to get a deal done, the Tigers might miss out on opportunities to make good deals.  I am not saying that is happening, just saying that being hard to deal with is not necessarily a good quality.  

Appears mentally unbalanced, appears unkempt and makes bizarre Tourette's-like gestures in public or just won't roll over for any deal that MLB Network talking heads would approve of are two different ends of that spectrum. 

[Tigermojo]

GMs trying to justify to their fans, I couldn't deal so and so because Harris is impossible!

[chasfh]

10 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

If he really is hard to deal with, that might not be a good thing.  If other teams started to avoid him on the assumption that it was impossible to get a deal done, the Tigers might miss out on opportunities to make good deals.  I am not saying that is happening, just saying that being hard to deal with is not necessarily a good quality.  

Al Avila was not hard to deal with.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

You have to give up something to get something back.  I would suspect that the majority of GMs like it when the deal is fairly even and works for both teams.  That way you get a reputation as being fair.

I'd much rather deal with someone like that than a guy who is always screwing people over. 

I can't think of anyone Harris has screwed over.

[Edman85]

I think it was Keith Law who made the Hornsby comparison, not Longenhagen. He was mostly joking.

[Edman85]

5 minutes ago, tiger2022 said:

You have to give up something to get something back.

Not necessarily...

[Tiger337]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Al Avila was not hard to deal with.

You're being difficult! 

[chasfh]

Just now, Tiger337 said:

You're being difficult! 

That's what I thought! 😂

[Edman85]

Existential sounding question...

How do we know who is going to be a good reliever the next the next three months? There seems to be a lot of certainty in the ether for something that is inherently uncertain.

[romad1]

I was shocked to see Charlie Morton has 97mph still.  That seems...hard to believe. 

[tiger2022]

18 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Not necessarily...

Then no one will want to deal with you.  Good luck being like that.