Tiger337 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 (edited) 7 hours ago, casimir said: I’m against 1st half and 2nd half. A season is a season. And I want playoff teams based on best record, not fortunate geography. I don't like the idea of a split season because it goes against tradition. However, If they expand the playoffs to 16 teams which I am pretty sure they will, then the regular season becomes almost meaningless. So, I wouldn't be upset if they did the half season thing. Seeing a team win a half season is more exciting than watching teams battle for 16th place. It's not like they are having two distinct halves with playoffs at mid-season. I also think the team that wins the first half probably would be one of the top 16 teams at the end anyway. Edited September 1 by Tiger337 Quote
chasfh Posted September 1 Posted September 1 12 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I don't like the idea of a split season because it goes against tradition. However, If they expand the playoffs to 16 teams which I am pretty sure they will, then the regular season becomes almost meaningless. So, I wouldn't be upset if they did the half season thing. Seeing a team win a half season is more exciting than watching teams battle for 16th place. It's not like they are having two distinct halves with playoffs at mid-season. I also think the team that wins the first half probably would be one of the top 16 teams at the end anyway. I think of the NBA and the NHL, the other more-or-less everyday leagues, and it strikes me how little those regular season games mean to me, and how I almost never look at the standings during the season. Those whole races are about getting into the playoffs, so those sports really only mean anything April through June. And I speak as a casual at best fan. I suppose I might feel different if i were a diehard fan of the Red Wings, a team that’s been more or less assured of missing the playoffs for going on ten years. Quote
Hongbit Posted September 1 Posted September 1 27 minutes ago, chasfh said: I think of the NBA and the NHL, the other more-or-less everyday leagues, and it strikes me how little those regular season games mean to me, and how I almost never look at the standings during the season. Those whole races are about getting into the playoffs, so those sports really only mean anything April through June. And I speak as a casual at best fan. I suppose I might feel different if i were a diehard fan of the Red Wings, a team that’s been more or less assured of missing the playoffs for going on ten years. This is why pro sports are so open to take all that money from DraftKings and FanDuel. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hongbit said: This is why pro sports are so open to take all that money from DraftKings and FanDuel. I guess I don't pay any kind of attention to things at ESPN, I basically just use the site for real time scores - but I assume they must now also be bedded down with some big gambling interest also as I see now that betting info is front and center in front of and above any actual game data. Edited September 1 by gehringer_2 Quote
Hongbit Posted September 1 Posted September 1 40 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I guess I don't pay any kind of attention to things at ESPN, I basically just use the site for real time scores - but I assume they must now also be bedded down with some big gambling interest also as I see now that betting info is front and center in front of and above any actual game data. Penn Gaming is one of the big national companies and since they don’t have clever gambling sounding corporate name they need a brand to partner. They started with Barstool and then pivoted to ESPN. Penn are paying ESPN $150M for 10 years plus company stock options for the right to plaster gambling over their entire platform 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Penn Gaming is one of the big national companies and since they don’t have clever gambling sounding corporate name they need a brand to partner. They started with Barstool and then pivoted to ESPN. Penn are paying ESPN $150M for 10 years plus company stock options for the right to plaster gambling over their entire platform Pretty much what I was guessing. Well, thanks anyway for a bit of info I would have been happy to live without ever having to hear about. Quote
Hongbit Posted September 1 Posted September 1 ESPN has $1.5B reasons to make sure you will be hearing all about it for the next 10 years . 1 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 9 minutes ago, Hongbit said: ESPN has $1.5B reasons to make sure you will be hearing all about it for the next 10 years . 🤮 Quote
tiger2022 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 Espn was on the verge of folding since no one watches 90% of the garbage shows they put on there Quote
gehringer_2 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 9 minutes ago, tiger2022 said: Espn was on the verge of folding since no one watches 90% of the garbage shows they put on there They also lost a ton of income from collapsing cable fees. Quote
casimir Posted September 2 Posted September 2 5 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: They also lost a ton of income from collapsing cable fees. Local cable just removed ESPN and FanDuel Detroit from its offerings. Quote
casimir Posted September 2 Posted September 2 23 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I don't like the idea of a split season because it goes against tradition. However, If they expand the playoffs to 16 teams which I am pretty sure they will, then the regular season becomes almost meaningless. So, I wouldn't be upset if they did the half season thing. Seeing a team win a half season is more exciting than watching teams battle for 16th place. It's not like they are having two distinct halves with playoffs at mid-season. I also think the team that wins the first half probably would be one of the top 16 teams at the end anyway. I guess I don't look at the split season as a shot against tradition. Maybe subconsciously I do kind of parallel them together. I just look at the season as a whole measuring stick of teams. Teams will have ebbs and flows through the year. I don't want to see a team that goes 92-70 miss the playoffs in lieu of a team that goes 86-76 because they latter had a better half than the former. That should never happen. Its just like splitting up into too many divisions with too few teams. At some point a team with a losing record wins a weak division and makes the playoffs. Its happened in the NFL. It was going to happen in MLB before the strike in 1994 shut down the rest of the regular season and the postseason. A losing record should never make the playoffs over a winning record in a professional league. Quote
Tiger337 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, casimir said: I guess I don't look at the split season as a shot against tradition. Maybe subconsciously I do kind of parallel them together. I just look at the season as a whole measuring stick of teams. Teams will have ebbs and flows through the year. I don't want to see a team that goes 92-70 miss the playoffs in lieu of a team that goes 86-76 because they latter had a better half than the former. That should never happen. Its just like splitting up into too many divisions with too few teams. At some point a team with a losing record wins a weak division and makes the playoffs. Its happened in the NFL. It was going to happen in MLB before the strike in 1994 shut down the rest of the regular season and the postseason. A losing record should never make the playoffs over a winning record in a professional league. With 16 teams making the playoffs and 4 team divisions, I think sub-.500 making the playoffs will be a faily common occurrence. 1 Quote
casimir Posted September 2 Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: With 16 teams making the playoffs and 4 team divisions, I think sub-.500 making the playoffs will be a faily common occurrence. Unfortunately, you're probably right. It'll be garbage to see it occur. Quote
tiger2022 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) They'll probably add 2 more teamsters the league and make the playoffs a 32 team affair. I remember when hockey had 21 teams and 16 made the playoffs. Kind of a pointless regular season. Edited September 2 by tiger2022 Quote
chasfh Posted September 2 Posted September 2 20 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I guess I don't pay any kind of attention to things at ESPN, I basically just use the site for real time scores - but I assume they must now also be bedded down with some big gambling interest also as I see now that betting info is front and center in front of and above any actual game data. They also license their brand name to skin a betting service. Quote
chasfh Posted September 2 Posted September 2 2 hours ago, tiger2022 said: They'll probably add 2 more teamsters the league and make the playoffs a 32 team affair. I remember when hockey had 21 teams and 16 made the playoffs. Kind of a pointless regular season. And the Red Wings would still miss the playoffs on the regular! Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted yesterday at 03:19 AM Author Posted yesterday at 03:19 AM Here it is. Count on it. 156-game schedule. Salt Lake in the AL, Nashville in the NL AL East Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox Chicago White Sox Cleveland Guardians Detroit Tigers New York Yankees Orlando Rays Toronto Blue Jays AL West Houston Astros Kansas City Royals Las Vegas A's Los Angeles Angels MInnesota Twins Salt Lake Swarm Seattle Mariners Texas Rangers NL East Atlanta Braves Cincinnati Reds Miami Marlins New York Mets Nashville Stars Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates Washington Nationals NL West Arizona Diamonbacks Chicago Cubs Colorado Rockies Los Angeles Dodgers Milwaukee Brewers St. Louis Cardinals San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants SCHEDULE: All 3-game series. One league has Mondays off, the other has Thursdays off 12 games vs. your own division (84 games) 6 games vs. the other division in your league (48 games) 3 games vs. one of the other league's division, swapping divisions year-to-year (24 games) Every team in your division will have the same schedule, the only difference is which opposing league teams you get at home and on the road. PLAYOFF STRUCTURE> Division winners get a first round bye Second place teams make playoffs The next two best records make the playoffs. #3 at #2 = 3 games, all home for #2. If a division sends a 4th team to the playoffs, that team has to play in the other division's bracket PLAYOFF STRUCTURE SCENARIO #2 - Splitting the season in half, with a first half winner and a second half winner for each division. That gives every team and every fanbase new life and new possibilities in the 2nd half. In that scenario, each league sends 8 teams to the playoffs total. If the same team wins both halves, they get a first round bye. But in that scnarioi #1 and #2 seeds get all 3 games at home If MLB decides to eliminate AL and NL (I find that hard to imagine), you could have four regional conferences EAST - Orioles, Nationas, Red Sox, Phillies, Pirates, Yankees, Mets, Blue Jays SOUTH - Braves, Marlins, Rays, Stars, Royals, Cardinals, Astros, Rangers CENTRAL - Tigers, Guardians, Reds, White Sox, Cubs, Twins, Brewers, Rockies WEST - Dodgers, Angels, Mariners, Swarm, Diamondbacks, A's, Giants, Padres Quote
IdahoBert Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM 31 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Here it is. Count on it. 156-game schedule. Salt Lake in the AL, Nashville in the NL AL East Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox Chicago White Sox Cleveland Guardians Detroit Tigers New York Yankees Orlando Rays Toronto Blue Jays AL West Houston Astros Kansas City Royals Las Vegas A's Los Angeles Angels MInnesota Twins Salt Lake Swarm Seattle Mariners Texas Rangers NL East Atlanta Braves Cincinnati Reds Miami Marlins New York Mets Nashville Stars Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates Washington Nationals NL West Arizona Diamonbacks Chicago Cubs Colorado Rockies Los Angeles Dodgers Milwaukee Brewers St. Louis Cardinals San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants SCHEDULE: All 3-game series. One league has Mondays off, the other has Thursdays off 12 games vs. your own division (84 games) 6 games vs. the other division in your league (48 games) 3 games vs. one of the other league's division, swapping divisions year-to-year (24 games) Every team in your division will have the same schedule, the only difference is which opposing league teams you get at home and on the road. PLAYOFF STRUCTURE> Division winners get a first round bye Second place teams make playoffs The next two best records make the playoffs. #3 at #2 = 3 games, all home for #2. If a division sends a 4th team to the playoffs, that team has to play in the other division's bracket PLAYOFF STRUCTURE SCENARIO #2 - Splitting the season in half, with a first half winner and a second half winner for each division. That gives every team and every fanbase new life and new possibilities in the 2nd half. In that scenario, each league sends 8 teams to the playoffs total. If the same team wins both halves, they get a first round bye. But in that scnarioi #1 and #2 seeds get all 3 games at home If MLB decides to eliminate AL and NL (I find that hard to imagine), you could have four regional conferences EAST - Orioles, Nationas, Red Sox, Phillies, Pirates, Yankees, Mets, Blue Jays SOUTH - Braves, Marlins, Rays, Stars, Royals, Cardinals, Astros, Rangers CENTRAL - Tigers, Guardians, Reds, White Sox, Cubs, Twins, Brewers, Rockies WEST - Dodgers, Angels, Mariners, Swarm, Diamondbacks, A's, Giants, Padres Did you make this all up, Mark? If you did, I’m impressed. If you cut and pasted it from somewhere else, thank you nonetheless it is kind of interesting. Quote
casimir Posted yesterday at 12:08 PM Posted yesterday at 12:08 PM 8 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: If MLB decides to eliminate AL and NL (I find that hard to imagine), you could have four regional conferences EAST - Orioles, Nationas, Red Sox, Phillies, Pirates, Yankees, Mets, Blue Jays SOUTH - Braves, Marlins, Rays, Stars, Royals, Cardinals, Astros, Rangers CENTRAL - Tigers, Guardians, Reds, White Sox, Cubs, Twins, Brewers, Rockies WEST - Dodgers, Angels, Mariners, Swarm, Diamondbacks, A's, Giants, Padres I like this realignment. Quote
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